Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: Is there code for X?

Topic: Finite version of IsCompact.exists_forall_le'


Anatole Dedecker (Mar 06 2024 at 13:15):

Do we have no Set.Finite version of docs#IsCompact.exists_forall_le' (the key part is I want no Nonempty assumption) ?

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:26):

Does #9872 help?

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:26):

AIUI, that should work for any compact set (with a ClosedIicTopology and a NoMaxOrder).

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:27):

Otherwise, I presume you can mimick that proof :-)

Anatole Dedecker (Mar 06 2024 at 13:27):

Well, this is the exact theorem I linked to indeed x) My point is that in the finite setting we don't want to have to introduce a topology to apply this lemma (even though mathematically it works perfectly fine)

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:27):

Sorry, I didn't check your link :face_palm:

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:28):

Well, I guess we don't have it. When submitting #9872, I checked and found no other result with a non-emptiness assumption.

Michael Rothgang (Mar 06 2024 at 13:29):

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Yaël Dillies (Mar 06 2024 at 23:00):

So you want a purely order theoretical lemma?

Yaël Dillies (Mar 06 2024 at 23:02):

Cant' you make do with docs#Finset.exists_le ?

Anatole Dedecker (Mar 06 2024 at 23:35):

Okay let’s un-xy. Here and there when dealing with infimums of metrizable topologies (e.g around docs#WithSeminorms, or in #10678) you are given some finite set of positive real numbers, not necessarily nonempty, and you want to pick some epsilon less than all of these and still positive. Of course there are multiple ways around this, but I haven't found anything fully satisfactory yet.


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