Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: graph theory
Topic: Sidorenko's Conjecture and Green's Open Problem 12
Jean-Guillaume Durand (Feb 06 2026 at 16:16):
TLDR: should indices wrap around modulo 5 in Green's Open Problem 12?
I am working on a formalization of Green's Open Problem 12. With @Felix Pernegger and @Moritz Firsching, we are trying to figure out how to interpret the original statement:
Let be an abelian group of size , and suppose that has density . Are there at least tuples such that whenever ?
Comment: This is very closely related to the Cayley graph case of simplest unknown instance of Sidorenko’s conjecture for graphs, that of the Möbius ladder .
My thoughts so far:
- Interpretation A: consider indices modulo 5. This formulation leads to 15 edges and seems compatible with an expression of Sidorenko's formula on (see this thread). This is also the interpretation chosen by BuddenBench, and looks like a common setup for Cayley Abelian Graphs (this book p.107). In this case, Green's problem looks like narrowing the Sidorenko conjecture to Cayley graphs on Abelian groups?
- Interpretation B: indices don't wrap around, leading to only 12 edges, not matching Sidorenko's formula with exponent 15 for . Yet, maybe this is what Green means by "closely related"? (i.e. "it is not exactly the Sidorenko conjecture on for Abelian Cayley graphs")
- Interpretation C: other?
Intuition and the above data points point me towards (A), but I might not be grasping some nuances.
Calling to people familiar with the different flavors of the Sidorenko conjecture: how would you interpret it?
Thank you for the help!
Bhavik Mehta (Feb 06 2026 at 16:56):
My instinct here was also A
Felix Pernegger (Feb 06 2026 at 17:19):
Just use A yeah, likely okay (and if nit this can be changed later)
Kevin Buzzard (Feb 06 2026 at 18:40):
Kevin,
Yes, the indices are to be taken mod 5. I'll update the question.
Best
BenP.S. I wasn't aware of the amount of activity on this - just in case it hasn't been noted, I put a new version of the open problems document on my webpage a few days ago, reflecting updates in the last year or so.
Last updated: Feb 28 2026 at 14:05 UTC