Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: general

Topic: Advertising Lean


Trebor Huang (Dec 14 2022 at 09:55):

I'm writing a 50 page essay on type theory, in which I would like to introduce Lean with about 1-2 pages of text. I would like this to grab the attention of mathematicians (or university math professors), but not get into too much detail. What are the tried-and-worked things that I can do? For instance, What are some good showcases, interesting projects or some stories that I can tell?

Patrick Massot (Dec 14 2022 at 09:57):

50 pages on type theory is "not get into too much detail"??

Kevin Buzzard (Dec 14 2022 at 10:05):

Why do you think that a university maths professor (who has probably never heard of type theory and thinks it's a weird computer science thing) is going to look at a 50 page essay on type theory? When I talk about lean I tend to talk about the mathematical successes but never mention type theory at all!

Highlights this year off the top of my head include: completion of the LTE (no paper as yet AFAIK), completion of the sphere eversion project (paper by Patrick Oliver and Floris just accepted) and Bhavik Mehta and Thomas Bloom formalising Bloom's resolution of an old Erdos conjecture before the paper got refereed.

Trebor Huang (Dec 14 2022 at 10:11):

It's mandatory coursework, and I can choose any subject, so might as well choose one that I'm more interested in. I would also like an opportunity to collect my thoughts on the subject and write something that people speaking my language instead of English would benefit from.
I'm focusing on the history part (like starting from Russell), so I would leave just a small part for Lean. I hope Lean is making history, and not being history anytime soon!

Winston Yin (Dec 14 2022 at 10:15):

Though I’m not a university maths professor, I’d love to give it a read when you’re finished with it. I’m an editor of Wikipedia and wouldn’t mind buffing up its article on Lean in English and Chinese

Andre Graubner (安德) (Dec 14 2022 at 12:29):

I'd also be more than interested in reading this once it's done!

Trebor Huang (Dec 25 2022 at 17:17):

I put it online here for preview. It will be ready in a few weeks, probably. I hope it is okay to ping @Andre Graubner (安德) @Winston Yin

Andre Graubner (安德) (Jan 03 2023 at 04:48):

Thanks this is great, I'll check it out. Time to learn some type theoretical terms in Chinese I guess :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Martin Dvořák (Jan 03 2023 at 10:08):

I also started advertising Lean:
https://youtu.be/6cmcZl-0x-0

Each of us could maybe make a video about Lean in their mother tongue, to reach a wider audience.
I am going to do more in the future.

Bulhwi Cha (Jan 03 2023 at 10:39):

I'll try to make introductory videos about Lean in Korean in the future, but it'll take quite a lot of time.

Winston Yin (尹維晨) (Jan 03 2023 at 20:42):

We can make it a starting goal to at least beef up the English Wikipedia article on Lean. It doesn't even mention LTE or the history of various versions!

Martin Dvořák (Jan 03 2023 at 21:13):

What is LTE?

Hanting Zhang (Jan 03 2023 at 21:16):

it's the Liquid Tensor Experiment

Niels Voss (Jan 03 2023 at 22:44):

I think the Wikipedia article should at least mention mathlib somewhere

Winston Yin (尹維晨) (Jan 05 2023 at 09:03):

If somebody wants to dump links to articles on Lean (ideally not written by Lean people) here, I can take a crack at the wiki article.

Alex J. Best (Jan 05 2023 at 13:06):

We have some examples of this collected in the #general > Lean in the wild thread

Floris van Doorn (Jan 05 2023 at 13:11):

Here are some links of articles in nature and quanta:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01627-2
https://www.quantamagazine.org/building-the-mathematical-library-of-the-future-20201001/
https://www.quantamagazine.org/lean-computer-program-confirms-peter-scholze-proof-20210728/
https://www.quantamagazine.org/can-computers-be-mathematicians-20220629/
it is also mentioned in
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-year-in-math-and-computer-science-20201223

Maybe we should collect these centrally somewhere ("Lean in the press" or something)?

Niels Voss (Jan 05 2023 at 13:57):

The YouTube video associated with the last link you posted is actually the way I found out about Lean in the first place

Kevin Buzzard (Jan 05 2023 at 15:03):

My partner still hasn't forgiven me for not removing the dishcloth from the back of the chair in that video


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