Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: general

Topic: Unicode in Zulip


Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:48):

Quick question: how do I comfortably input unicode in Zulip? So far I have used copy-paste to write alphas and betas. In VS code these are magically replaced with unicode... in the rest of my life TeX does this for me. How do I get them here?

Mario Carneiro (Apr 11 2018 at 18:51):

You can use tex here, although it gets math font: $\alpha$

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:56):

Ok, thanks.

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:57):

Test: $\alpha$ $\alpha$

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:57):

Hmm, neither do what I want...

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:57):

How do you input an alpha in code? So between back-ticks?

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 18:58):

Test: α\alpha

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:01):

I use https://github.com/docwhat/itsalltext/tree/release-1.9.3#readme It gives me a small "edit" button near textareas in firefox. Clicking this button fires vim and you can type whatever you want

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:01):

Of course you can also configure it to fire emacs if that's your religion

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:02):

No, I'm a vimmer. But I never input alphas directly into vim...

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:02):

I was an ascii-only guy, until I met Lean

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:04):

At some point, someone will formalise Fermat's last theorem in Lean

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:04):

Then you should go and configure your vim to make you a unicode guy

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:04):

And it will take us 5 years to figure out that they spoofed us with an punycode attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDN_homograph_attack

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:05):

Importing some library whose name looks completely familiar, but inside the library they do just assume false...

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:18):

I think Kevin decided we weren't formalizing FLT in the end

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:18):

This is too old

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:18):

He works on perfectoid spaces

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:25):

The problem remains... whether you are formalising the latest hotness in the Langlands program, or some hardcore \infty-stuff, or something from quantisation-blabla... unicode is ambiguous and susceptible to social attacks...

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:25):

Anyway, I will stuff away my tinfoil hat... enough other problems to focus on right now (^;

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:37):

I don't think it's too difficult to formalise. The proof might be harder though.

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:38):

The thing about the proof is that there is a huge amount of analysis that goes into the trace formula

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:38):

and I know of no proof which ultimately avoids the trace formula

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

in the non-compact case I should add -- SL(2).

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

https://github.com/formalabstracts/formalabstracts/blob/master/fabstract/Wiles_A_and_Taylor_R_FermatLast/fabstract.lean

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

It's the one part of the proof I've not read and it would not surprise me if I went to my grave not having read it.

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

Unless EPSRC give me several million quid to formalise it.

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

Statement is already done :smile:

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 11 2018 at 19:39):

Oh OK that's great, we're half way there.

Patrick Massot (Apr 11 2018 at 19:40):

Indeed

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:40):

Lol, they have a type called document

Johan Commelin (Apr 11 2018 at 19:40):

That's fantastic (^;


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