Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: general

Topic: group_theory.specific_groups


Julian Külshammer (Apr 01 2021 at 19:16):

I was wondering whether it would make sense to create a subfolder of group_theory analogous to the special_functions subfolder of analysis, that is called something like specific_groups and contains facts about certain well-known groups (like the ATLAS of finite simple groups, but not restricted to simple groups). So far, I could see the second half of order_of_element which deals with cyclic groups being there, but also dihedral_group and quaternion_group. One could also think about migrating some groups from other folders like special_linear_group but that is maybe more controversial. What do you think?

Johan Commelin (Apr 01 2021 at 19:23):

I think it's a good idea.

Johan Commelin (Apr 01 2021 at 19:23):

I would live the "linear algebra" groups where they are. But all the specific finite groups could certainly go there.

Johan Commelin (Apr 01 2021 at 19:23):

Like, I think we just got a definition of the alternating group recently

Aaron Anderson (Apr 01 2021 at 19:52):

Johan Commelin said:

Like, I think we just got a definition of the alternating group recently

Almost... #6913

Julian Külshammer (Apr 03 2021 at 09:53):

Created in #7018 (still have to fix the imports). I interpret Johan's reply in the way that perm and free_group should also not be migrated into that folder.

Johan Commelin (Apr 03 2021 at 10:15):

perm is somewhat on the border. But I would leave it where it is for now. We can always move it later.

Aaron Anderson (Apr 04 2021 at 16:50):

The alternating group is now in mathlib. My current inclination is to leave the basic definition in group_theory/perm/sign, but we're going to want to create specific_groups/alternating_group sooner or later, because the proof of simplicity is too complicated to leave in group_theory/perm/cycle.


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