Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: general
Topic: ideals of continuous maps
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 22 2022 at 18:53):
I have implemented (locally, there is no branch or PR yet) the Galois connection between sets of topological space X
and ideals of C(X, R)
where R
is a topological ring; here the maps are, for s : set X
take the ideal of all functions which are zero on this set, and for I : ideal C(X, R)
take the intersections of the zero sets of all functions in the ideal are zero.
In case R
is is_R_or_C R
, and X
is compact Hausdorff, then this can actually be upgraded to a Galois correspondence between closed sets and closed ideals, which I have also implemented in an unbundled fashion. The questions is: should I also implement a bundled version of this Galois correspondence between the types closeds X
and { I : ideal C(X, R) // is_closed (I : set C(X, R)) }
?
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 22 2022 at 19:28):
@Heather Macbeth, @Frédéric Dupuis , @Oliver Nash
Frédéric Dupuis (Sep 22 2022 at 19:51):
My take is that if you don't have a use case in mind for the bundled version, then don't worry about it for now. We can always add it later.
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 22 2022 at 19:59):
Well, here is one possibility, but I haven't actually tried it yet: if we have an actual order_iso
here (between (closeds X)ᵒᵈ
and the subtype of closed ideals), shouldn't we be able to prove more easily that the ideal correspondning to {x}
is maximal, and vice versa that every maximal ideal arises in this way?
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 22 2022 at 20:22):
Another issue: should I implement all this in terms of open sets instead? closed sets has always felt to me more natural, but I could possibly be convinced to go the other way.
Kevin Buzzard (Sep 22 2022 at 21:37):
Given that we don't have contravariant functors I would implement it in the covariant way
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 22 2022 at 22:15):
Just the order isomorphism, or everything?
Kevin Buzzard (Sep 23 2022 at 10:28):
Heh, I don't know really, I just think having op
s makes stuff less readable, but it's probably not a strong argument for making the decision.
Jireh Loreaux (Sep 23 2022 at 14:34):
To see how it would play out, I just did it last night. I think I agree with you that it's better via open sets.
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