Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: general

Topic: inaccessible


Violeta Hernández (Jan 25 2022 at 19:10):

Yaël recently made me aware of inaccessible, an abandoned branch by @Floris van Doorn from 2019. I'm interested in reviving it and PR-ing it.

Violeta Hernández (Jan 25 2022 at 19:10):

What was the goal of this branch? Was it just to add a few theorems on cofinality?

Violeta Hernández (Jan 25 2022 at 19:52):

(Also, some help on the remaining theorems would be nice...)

Floris van Doorn (Jan 26 2022 at 09:04):

Yes, I just wanted to add some results about inaccessible cardinals. I don't think I had a specific goal in mind.

Floris van Doorn (Jan 26 2022 at 09:04):

branch#inaccessible

Floris van Doorn (Jan 26 2022 at 09:23):

For the two sorry's that I had remaining when I ended, cof_bsup_le_cof_of_nondecreasing has mathematically a very similar statement to cof_sup_le_cof and cof_bsup_eq is similar to cof_sup_eq_cof. I remember that I still had some difficulties in proving them, but maybe following a similar proof strategy helps.

Floris van Doorn (Jan 26 2022 at 09:24):

I hope this helps. Thanks for and good luck on reviving it!

Violeta Hernández (Jan 28 2022 at 19:06):

A few of these theorems had the assumption ∀ i, f i < sup f. As it turns out, these were actually theorems about least strict upper bounds, and I've restated them accordingly.

Violeta Hernández (Jan 28 2022 at 19:07):

With that said, I'm a bit skeptical about one of the yet-unproven statements:

theorem cof_lsub_eq_cof {ι} {r : ι  ι  Prop} [is_well_order ι r] (f : ι  ordinal)
  (hf :  i j, r i j  f i  f j) : cof (lsub.{u v} f) = (type r).lift.cof :=

Violeta Hernández (Jan 28 2022 at 19:08):

Well orders are supposed to be strict, right? If so, wouldn't the correct assumption be ∀ i j, r i j → f i < f j?

Violeta Hernández (Jan 28 2022 at 19:09):

Otherwise you'd get issues with constant functions.


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