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Stream: general

Topic: reflected \alpha

Keeley Hoek (Nov 21 2018 at 06:45):

This probably counts as a newbie question, sorry:

What is the purpose of the typeclass instance [reflected \alpha] which eval_expr takes? Why can the typeclass system work out what it is most of the time, but sometimes when you pass a custom structure withh few boring nested structures it freaks out?

Mario Carneiro (Nov 21 2018 at 06:52):

it needs to know how to produce expressions from a VM value

Mario Carneiro (Nov 21 2018 at 06:52):

I don't know what the freakout problem is

Keeley Hoek (Nov 21 2018 at 07:44):

I will try to concoct

Keeley Hoek (Nov 21 2018 at 09:14):

Consider this little snippet:

structure a_struct (α : Type) :=
(val : α)

def make_struct : a_struct unit := ⟨()⟩

meta def go (tv : Type) : tactic unit := do
  e ← tactic.mk_app `make_struct [],
  tactic.eval_expr (a_struct tv) e,                 /-  failed to synthesize type class instance for ⊢ reflected (a_struct tv) -/

#eval (go unit)

Sebastian Ullrich (Nov 21 2018 at 09:17):

reflected can only be synthesized for closed (parts of) expressions, so go needs a [reflected tv] parameter

Keeley Hoek (Nov 21 2018 at 12:17):

In principle, is there any way to make something like this:

set_option trace.app_builder true

structure signature :=
(α : Type)

structure container_struct :=
(c : signature)
(val : c.α)

meta def go : tactic unit := tactic.down $ do
  e ← tactic.up $ tactic.mk_app `container_struct.mk [`({signature . α := nat}), `(2)],
  tactic.eval_expr container_struct e.down,
  tactic.up $ tactic.skip

run_cmd go

-- [app_builder] failed to create an 'container_struct.mk'-application,
-- failed to solve unification constraint for #2 argument (?x_0.α =?= ℕ)

work? I'd really like to be able to persuade lean to be able to solve that constraint (why can't it? :'()

(Please mind the tactic.up and tactic.downs, which are just dealing with the fact that container_struct is Type 1.)

Sebastian Ullrich (Nov 21 2018 at 12:31):

That might be an issue with tactic.mk_app, can you try with the full tactic.to_expr?

Keeley Hoek (Nov 21 2018 at 12:37):

@Sebastian Ullrich Brilliant! Thanks so much, lots of time of potentially lost work saved

Keeley Hoek (Nov 22 2018 at 07:44):

Here's another mini-problem. I'm just going to store a variable a of arbitrary type α in a structure in two different ways:

structure struct_v1 (α : Type) :=
(a : α)

structure struct_v2 :=
(α : Type)
(a : α)

def v1_def : struct_v1 nat := ⟨3⟩

def v2_def : struct_v2 := ⟨nat, 3⟩

Now I'll try to dynamically fetch these structures, first for version 1, and second for version 2:

meta def go_1 (t : Type) : tactic unit :=
  let n := `v1_def in do
  e ← tactic.resolve_name n >>= tactic.to_expr,

-- failed to synthesize type class instance for
-- ⊢ reflected (struct_v1 t)
  tactic.eval_expr (struct_v1 t) e,

  return ()

run_cmd go_1 nat

meta def go_2 : tactic unit := tactic.down $
  let n := `v2_def in do
  e ← tactic.up $ tactic.resolve_name n >>= tactic.to_expr,
  tactic.eval_expr struct_v2 e.down,
  tactic.up $ return ()

run_cmd go_2

I get a reflection error in only the first way, even though the type could be arbitrary in either case. What's the difference between these constructions?

Sebastian Ullrich (Nov 22 2018 at 09:00):

In both versions, you need a reflected term of the type. In version 2, that is already part of v2_def(defs are stored as exprs after all). In version 1, you need an explicit [reflected t]. That is the difference.

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