Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: new members
Topic: (topological) quotient group
Daan van Gent (Jul 18 2020 at 16:07):
I am trying to define the topological group \R / \Z and I am running into some problems. First one has to construct the subgroup \Z of \R. Apparently this can be done in two ways, with add_subgroup
and is_add_subgroup
. The latter is deprecated, but the former has no quotient definition associated as far as I know. What should I do?
Heather Macbeth (Jul 18 2020 at 16:28):
The experts will answer you soon, but the short answer is that you have found a refactor-in-progress. #3321
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 18 2020 at 16:48):
I just got quotient_group.lean
compiling with add_subgroup
and no errors an hour ago :-)
Alex J. Best (Jul 18 2020 at 17:12):
Maybe you are doing this already but I'd recommend explcitly defining Z inside R as the image of the coercion map from Z to R. You might get more results for free that way
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 18 2020 at 17:21):
Before norm_cast
I was considering making two typeclasses on real
, both called something like is_int
, one a predicate ("there exists an integer such that I'm the coercion of that integer") and one containing data (the integer plus a proof that the integer coerces to the real in question). Type class inference could be used to show that the sum of two real integers was a real integer etc
Daan van Gent (Jul 18 2020 at 18:08):
Alex J. Best said:
Maybe you are doing this already but I'd recommend explcitly defining Z inside R as the image of the coercion map from Z to R. You might get more results for free that way
I define Z as the subgroup generated by 1 in R. I'll see whether your suggestion turns out to be more useful when I get to working with it.
Daan van Gent (Jul 18 2020 at 18:09):
Thanks for your answers. I guess I'll wait a bit before playing around with groups some more.
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