Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: new members

Topic: Collaborations looking for volunteers


Gerardo Jose Suarez (Apr 21 2025 at 16:47):

I had known what lean is for about a year, but it never caught my interest until recently when I saw a popular science video on the busy beaver problem though I understand that Coq and not lean was used, I decided to come to this zulip because of a talk I saw on youtube with Terrence tao talking about proof asistants, I am a physicist by training (alreay checking some cool sutff out in the natural sciences channel), but will lkely not get into this, unless I see a reason and a supporting community to get some interaction, I was wondering if you guys know of anything like the busy beaver challenge where people are looking for volunteers to proof small sections of a bigger problem, or anything related where one can volunteer some time working on a problem that uses these
tools

suhr (Apr 21 2025 at 19:04):

Maybe porting (copying statements and doing proofs yourself) some code from Coq to Lean would be a good exercise.

Gerardo Jose Suarez (Apr 21 2025 at 19:25):

suhr said:

Maybe porting (copying statements and doing proofs yourself) some code from Coq to Lean would be a good exercise.

Indeed it is a good exercise, the reason I'm looking for such a volunteer task, is to have a goal to work on instead of just learning for the sake of learning, of course I would need to learn by doing this sort of stuff before, for now I'm just checking to see what the possibilities to use it are ( in this sort of online collaboration )

Maja Kądziołka (Apr 22 2025 at 01:23):

often such things are announced in various proof assistant discussion forums like this one. one high-profile one that comes to mind is the Fermat's Last Theorem project, though obviously that requires quite a bit of mathematics knowledge to contribute to.

in the case of the Busy Beaver project, it is a bit unusual in that the actual formal proof is not the area that needed many hands to complete the work – it's not a typical collection of interlinked lemmas that contribute to more and more understanding of a mathematical object, but rather a software program engineered to be relatively easy to prove correct. as such it's not a good source of lemma-sized TODOs

the aspect in which the Busy Beaver project was much more collaborative is actually finding the proof in the first place.

the way I found the project is that I was looking for a fun project to do in Coq, and I remembered the busy beaver function, which felt like it would have the type of theory around it that I would consider neat and approachable

Maja Kądziołka (Apr 22 2025 at 01:25):

so, I would say that a good way of finding a project to contribute would be: find a piece of math that interests you and go from there

Kevin Buzzard (Apr 22 2025 at 05:35):

Did you ask in #PhysLean ?

Gerardo Jose Suarez (Apr 22 2025 at 08:53):

You're absolutely right, that's always the best way to go! I was just thinking that this sort of busy beaver collaboration was popular, and was looking for something that I find interesting but at the same time had some people interested in it so that I could ask the community about the problem, get help I get stuck, etc ... I was sort of hoping there would be many people looking for counter examples of conjectures, or something like that when contributing would be easy

Gerardo Jose Suarez (Apr 22 2025 at 08:57):

Kevin Buzzard said:

Did you ask in #PhysLean ?

I didn't but found a course on youtube mentioned on the channel which I just started to take :), probably will go there after it :)

Michał Mrugała (Apr 22 2025 at 09:29):

There is also the Toric project if that’s up your alley


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