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Topic: Glue map from finite intermediate field
Jiang Jiedong (May 20 2024 at 12:32):
Hi everyone,
Is there a theorem in Lean talking about: To define an algebra map on an algebraic field extension (possibly infinite) it suffices to define it on every finite intermediate field compatibly?
The background of this question is a bit lengthy. I am trying to translate the following argument into lean:
Given a field , suppose we have defined a subgroup of each for any finite Galois extension , satisfying that for any tower of finite Galois extensions , the image of in the quotient group is exactly . (In my case, this is exactly the upper numbering ramification group.) In other words, is compatible with quotients.
Now I extend the definition of to infinite algebraic Galois extensions by setting
I want to show that this property of "compatible with quotients" still holds for this extended , i.e. let be a tower of (not necessarily finite) Galois extension of fields,
Tricky things occur here. Expanding the definition, it suffices to show this key equivalence
Here is always taken among .
The difficulty lies in . LHS implies RHS is trivial. For RHS implies LHS, one needs to do the following two things.
(a) To define an element in on L, it suffices to find compatible elements in each .
(b) To construct compatible elements in each from possibly incompatible elements , one need to use the fact that finite Galois extensions is filtered, and each is finite.
Mathematically, the tricky thing here is one must somehow use something "cofiltered limit commutes with finite colimit" like (b) here. I didn't find this category theory theorem CategoryTheory.Limits.FilteredColimitCommutesFiniteLimit
in mathlib, although it is claimed in the beginning of Mathlib.CategoryTheory.Filtered.Basic
This is my current attempt. I will be very grateful if anyone has a better roadmap to prove the same goal. Thank you!
Joël Riou (May 20 2024 at 17:57):
The result about the commutation of filtered colimits with finite limits is in the file https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/Mathlib/CategoryTheory/Limits/FilteredColimitCommutesFiniteLimit.html
Jiang Jiedong said:
Is there a theorem in Lean talking about: To define an algebra map on an algebraic field extension (possibly infinite) it suffices to define it on every finite intermediate field compatibly?
However, I would recommend you try to formulate this result in Lean without using category theory. Then, you should see that it is largely independent from Galois theory.
Andrew Yang (May 20 2024 at 18:48):
I did something similar here
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