Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: new members
Topic: Looking up definitions of symbols
Aniruddh Agarwal (May 21 2020 at 15:31):
Is there a good way of looking up the definitions of ∈
, |
, ∃
, etc.?
Bryan Gin-ge Chen (May 21 2020 at 15:44):
#print ∈
will show the declaration name. I think you can also right click on them and go to definition as usual.
Bryan Gin-ge Chen (May 21 2020 at 15:48):
These are all defined as notation typeclasses though so the definitions won't be too helpful. unfortunately I don't know of a quick way to find the actual instance that's at play when they're being used in a block of code other than digging through set_option trace.class_instances true
output.
Jalex Stark (May 21 2020 at 18:30):
huh for some reason I've been writing print notation ∈
instead, it seems they have the same output
Aniruddh Agarwal (May 21 2020 at 18:40):
Emacs seems to be inconsistent with which symbol's definitions it can automatically look up and display and which it can't. I should read lean-mode's documentation more closely to see if I'm missing something
Bryan Gin-ge Chen (May 21 2020 at 18:42):
The Lean server frequently has trouble with go-to-definition when working in tactic mode. I don't know if there's a good solution for this.
Aniruddh Agarwal (May 21 2020 at 18:43):
I was very confused about why lean didn't like #print |
. Turns out I should've been typing #print \|
. /sigh
Johan Commelin (May 21 2020 at 18:46):
Yup, that one is annoying.
Reid Barton (May 21 2020 at 18:49):
You can use C-u C-x =
to find out what character you have, and how to type it.
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 18:52):
Oh, it makes me think of a great improvement we could make in Lean 3.15.0. Could we get rid of (|
and |)
? This would allow declaring |
(the regular ASCII one) as notation for the absolute value without fearing to put it next to a parenthesis.
Reid Barton (May 21 2020 at 18:56):
Is that really the only problem with |
, though? It also triggers the equation compiler
Johan Commelin (May 21 2020 at 18:57):
We could use \|
for that :oops:
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 18:57):
I don't think I ever had Lean thinking I wanted the equation compiler
Gabriel Ebner (May 21 2020 at 18:57):
What is |)
?
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 18:57):
Lean must have noticed I never use the equation compiler
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 18:58):
See? Gabriel doesn't even know that thing
Reid Barton (May 21 2020 at 18:58):
I had to look them up.
Gabriel Ebner (May 21 2020 at 18:58):
Oh, wow. |)
is ascii for ⟩
in case anybody's wondering.
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 18:58):
Exactly. Let's get rid of ASCII art
Gabriel Ebner (May 21 2020 at 18:59):
If we remove |)
, can we then make |
syntax for dvd
?
Mario Carneiro (May 21 2020 at 19:01):
aren't there issues with the other meanings of |
too though?
Mario Carneiro (May 21 2020 at 19:01):
like in set builders, the equation compiler, and inductive cases
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 19:02):
I'm using |
for absolute value throughout the tutorials project, and the only issue is with (|
and |)
Gabriel Ebner (May 21 2020 at 19:03):
Ok, I'll let you figure out how to use it in mathlib.
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 19:03):
Note that I'm not advocating setting a global abs
notation
Gabriel Ebner (May 21 2020 at 19:05):
Well, it's gone in 3.15: lean#265
Patrick Massot (May 21 2020 at 19:07):
When I see PR pages like lean#265 I wonder whether Gabriel is also bors.
Kevin Buzzard (May 21 2020 at 23:40):
You never see them in the same place at the same time
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