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Topic: Match lhs and rhs of inequality
Kunhao Zheng (Jun 10 2021 at 09:17):
Hello! Currently I am trying to formalizing some inequality exercises involving amgm. Here is the first draft that works.
import data.real.basic
import analysis.mean_inequalities
import analysis.special_functions.pow
theorem algebra_amgm2_a2oncpc2onbpb2onaleqa3conb3pb3aonc3pc3bona3
(a b c : ℝ)
(h₀ : 0 < a ∧ 0 < b ∧ 0 < c) :
a^2 / c + c^2 / b + b^2 / a ≤ a^3 * c / b^3 + b^3 * a / c^3 + c^3 * b / a^3 :=
begin
have ha₃ := pow_pos h₀.1 3,
have hb₃ := pow_pos h₀.2.1 3,
have hc₃ := pow_pos h₀.2.2 3,
have h₁ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos hb₃ h₀.1) hc₃),
have h₂ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos hc₃ h₀.2.1) ha₃),
have h₃ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos ha₃ h₀.2.2) hb₃),
have h₄ : (0:ℝ) ≤ 1 / 2, norm_num,
have h₅ : 1 / 2 + 1 / 2 = (1:ℝ), ring,
have h₆ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₁ h₂ h₅,
have h₇ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₁ h₃ h₅,
have h₈ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₂ h₃ h₅,
have h₉ := add_le_add (add_le_add h₇ h₈) h₆,
clear h₆ h₇ h₈,
have lhs : (b^3 * a / c^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) * (a^3 * c / b^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) +
(c^3 * b / a^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) * (a^3 * c / b^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) +
(b^3 * a / c^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) * (c^3 * b / a^3)^((1:ℝ) / 2) =
a^2 / c + c^2 / b + b^2 / a, {
simp only [←real.mul_rpow, h₁, h₂, h₃],
refine congr (congr_arg has_add.add _) _,
refine congr (congr_arg has_add.add _) _,
{
have pow_can₁: a^2 / c = ((a^2 / c) ^ ((2:ℕ):ℝ)) ^ ((1:ℝ) / 2), {
simp [←real.rpow_mul, le_of_lt (div_pos (pow_pos h₀.1 2) h₀.2.2)],
},
rw pow_can₁,
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
rw [real.rpow_nat_cast],
field_simp [ne_of_gt hb₃, ne_of_gt hc₃, pow_succ' c 2, ne_of_gt h₀.2.2, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
{
have pow_can₂: c^2 / b = ((c^2 / b) ^ ((2:ℕ):ℝ)) ^ ((1:ℝ) / 2), {
simp [←real.rpow_mul, le_of_lt (div_pos (pow_pos h₀.2.2 2) h₀.2.1)],
},
rw pow_can₂,
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
rw [real.rpow_nat_cast],
field_simp [ne_of_gt ha₃, ne_of_gt hb₃, pow_succ' b 2, ne_of_gt h₀.2.1, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
{
have pow_can₃: b^2 / a = ((b^2 / a) ^ ((2:ℕ):ℝ)) ^ ((1:ℝ) / 2), {
simp [←real.rpow_mul, le_of_lt (div_pos (pow_pos h₀.2.1 2) h₀.1)],
},
rw pow_can₃,
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
rw [real.rpow_nat_cast],
field_simp [ne_of_gt hc₃, ne_of_gt hb₃, pow_succ' a 2, ne_of_gt h₀.1, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
},
have rhs : 1 / 2 * (b^3 * a / c^3) + 1 / 2 * (a^3 * c / b^3) +
(1 / 2 * (c^3 * b / a^3) + 1 / 2 * (a^3 * c / b^3)) +
(1 / 2 * (b^3 * a / c^3) + 1 / 2 * (c^3 * b / a^3)) =
a^3 * c / b^3 + b^3 * a / c^3 + c^3 * b / a^3, {
ring_nf,
},
rwa [←lhs, ←rhs],
end
The roadmap is to construct an inequality forwardly (h₉) then prove its lhs and rhs can simplify to the goal's. I have to state explicitly the lhs and rhs here because I didn't find any tactic that helps with this kind of situation, something like
import data.real.basic
lemma trans_le_trans
(a b c d : ℝ)
(h : a ≤ b)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d) :
c ≤ d :=
begin
sorry
end
can help me use the refine
tactic to generate 2 subgoals of equalities. But I can only find tactic for 1 equality like eq.trans_le
. Also, my proof is very forward reasony so I wonder if you have any advice on the proof itself.
Sebastien Gouezel (Jun 10 2021 at 09:25):
import data.real.basic
lemma trans_le_trans
(a b c d : ℝ)
(h : a ≤ b)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d) :
c ≤ d :=
begin
linarith,
end
Eric Wieser (Jun 10 2021 at 11:07):
Do we have docs#has_le.le.trans_eq?
Eric Wieser (Jun 10 2021 at 11:08):
j.symm.le.trans (h.trans k.le)
is a short term-mode proof
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 11:14):
j.symm.le
is j.ge
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 11:14):
But I guess we don't get a trans
then?
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 11:16):
Of course by rwa [j, k] at h
also works
Damiano Testa (Jun 10 2021 at 11:17):
I find that what is below is closer to how I think of it:
import data.real.basic
lemma trans_le_trans
(a b c d : ℝ)
(h : a ≤ b)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d) :
c ≤ d :=
begin
convert h, -- I know the correct inequality is this one
{ exact j.symm }, -- now fix it!
{ exact k.symm }
end
Damiano Testa (Jun 10 2021 at 11:19):
For increased opacity, this also works:
by convert h; exact eq.symm ‹_›
Damiano Testa (Jun 10 2021 at 11:20):
Although, while the term mode proofs that have been given earlier are probably closer to mathlib proofs (and also how I would write them), using convert
is often more "mathematical".
Damiano Testa (Jun 10 2021 at 11:22):
In particular, my impression is that the role of h
is fundamental, while the extra equalities are noise. Beginning a proof with convert h
is bringing the attention to what matters. After that, what is left is figuring out that you do indeed have the pieces of the puzzle.
Eric Wieser (Jun 10 2021 at 11:36):
You can also use the equation compiler for this type of thing:
import data.real.basic
lemma trans_le_trans : ∀
(a b c d : ℝ)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d)
(h : a ≤ b),
c ≤ d
| _ _ _ _ rfl rfl h := h
Eric Wieser (Jun 10 2021 at 11:37):
But tactic#linarith is the best "I don't care about this stuff just solve it for me" solution.
Kunhao Zheng (Jun 10 2021 at 11:40):
Eric Wieser said:
You can also use the equation compiler for this type of thing:
import data.real.basic lemma trans_le_trans : ∀ (a b c d : ℝ) (j : a = c) (k : b = d) (h : a ≤ b), c ≤ d | _ _ _ _ rfl rfl h := h
could you please explain more about this syntax? I don't quite understand what's going on here (especially the |
and the ,
after (h : a ≤ b)
)
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 11:41):
@Kunhao Zheng Note that the is now a \forall
on the first line of the lemma
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 11:41):
So the ,
is just \forall bla, blabla
Yakov Pechersky (Jun 10 2021 at 11:46):
Also possible term mode is to use eq.subst, I think (k.subst (j.subst h)) will work. The rw triangle.
Yakov Pechersky (Jun 10 2021 at 11:49):
Regarding the proof and reverse reasoning, untested, but after you prove that the cubes are nonnegative, can you try field_simp? That should multiply everything out
Kunhao Zheng (Jun 10 2021 at 12:00):
Yakov Pechersky said:
Regarding the proof and reverse reasoning, untested, but after you prove that the cubes are nonnegative, can you try field_simp? That should multiply everything out
Now my proof looks like this:
import data.real.basic
import analysis.mean_inequalities
import analysis.special_functions.pow
lemma trans_le_trans
{a b c d : ℝ}
(h : a ≤ b)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d) :
c ≤ d := k.subst(j.subst h)
lemma pow_two_pow_half
(a : ℝ)
(h : 0 < a) :
a = (a^2)^((1:ℝ) / 2) :=
begin
simp [←real.rpow_mul, le_of_lt h, ←real.rpow_nat_cast],
end
theorem algebra_amgm2_a2oncpc2onbpb2onaleqa3conb3pb3aonc3pc3bona3
(a b c : ℝ)
(h₀ : 0 < a ∧ 0 < b ∧ 0 < c) :
a^2 / c + c^2 / b + b^2 / a ≤ a^3 * c / b^3 + b^3 * a / c^3 + c^3 * b / a^3 :=
begin
have ha₃ := pow_pos h₀.1 3,
have hb₃ := pow_pos h₀.2.1 3,
have hc₃ := pow_pos h₀.2.2 3,
have h₁ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos hb₃ h₀.1) hc₃),
have h₂ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos hc₃ h₀.2.1) ha₃),
have h₃ := le_of_lt (div_pos (mul_pos ha₃ h₀.2.2) hb₃),
have h₄ : (0:ℝ) ≤ 1 / 2, norm_num,
have h₅ : 1 / 2 + 1 / 2 = (1:ℝ), ring,
have h₆ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₁ h₂ h₅,
have h₇ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₁ h₃ h₅,
have h₈ := real.geom_mean_le_arith_mean2_weighted h₄ h₄ h₂ h₃ h₅,
have h₉ := add_le_add (add_le_add h₇ h₈) h₆,
clear h₆ h₇ h₈,
refine trans_le_trans h₉ _ _,
{
simp only [←real.mul_rpow, h₁, h₂, h₃],
rw [pow_two_pow_half (a ^ 2 / c) _, pow_two_pow_half (c ^ 2 / b) _, pow_two_pow_half (b ^ 2 / a) _],
refine congr (congr_arg has_add.add _) _,
refine congr (congr_arg has_add.add _) _,
{
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
field_simp [ne_of_gt hb₃, ne_of_gt hc₃, pow_succ' c 2, ne_of_gt h₀.2.2, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
{
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
field_simp [ne_of_gt ha₃, ne_of_gt hb₃, pow_succ' b 2, ne_of_gt h₀.2.1, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
{
refine congr_fun (congr_arg pow _) _,
field_simp [ne_of_gt hc₃, ne_of_gt hb₃, pow_succ' a 2, ne_of_gt h₀.1, mul_div_cancel_left],
ring_nf,
},
exact div_pos (pow_pos h₀.2.1 2) h₀.1,
exact div_pos (pow_pos h₀.2.2 2) h₀.2.1,
exact div_pos (pow_pos h₀.1 2) h₀.2.2,
},
ring,
end
The line of field_simp [ne_of_gt hb₃, ne_of_gt hc₃, pow_succ' c 2, ne_of_gt h₀.2.2, mul_div_cancel_left],
helps me out to convert an equality of b ^ 3 * a / c ^ 3 * (a ^ 3 * c / b ^ 3) = (a ^ 2 / c) ^ 2
to b ^ 3 * a * (a ^ 3 * c) * c ^ 2 = (a ^ 2) ^ 2 * (c ^ 2 * c * b ^ 3)
. Not sure if this you're referring to?
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 12:23):
Just wondering: what's with the absurdly long theorem name? Mathlib theorem names tend to encode the formal statement of the theorem and I understand that you want to follow that convention, however I think this is very extreme.
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 12:24):
As a side note, I tend to call everything a lemma because I'm not a mathematician, LOL. Only mathematicians can prove theorems. I'm just a mere programmer knowing absolutely nothing about proper mathematics.
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 12:25):
Even though I know how to prove this inequality :clown:
Kevin Buzzard (Jun 10 2021 at 12:25):
you won't like Lean 4 then :-)
Kunhao Zheng (Jun 10 2021 at 12:33):
Huỳnh Trần Khanh said:
Just wondering: what's with the absurdly long theorem name? Mathlib theorem names tend to encode the formal statement of the theorem and I understand that you want to follow that convention, however I think this is very extreme.
Somehow that's a naming convention we adapt from the metamath system to keep it aligned with statements written in that system (https://github.com/openai/miniF2F), I admit it's a bit tedious and longer but you could know what it tells us by reading the name. I once wanted to come up with another naming convention but I fell back into it:( so if you have any suggestions I will be very happy!
Johan Commelin (Jun 10 2021 at 12:39):
@Kunhao Zheng The mathlib name would probably be sq_div_add_sq_div_add_sq_div_le
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 13:22):
@Kunhao Zheng When you have a goal that can be closed simply by substituting variables, try cc
. The cc
(congruence closure) tactic is specifically designed for this.
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 13:23):
import data.real.basic
lemma trans_le_trans
(a b c d : ℝ)
(h : a ≤ b)
(j : a = c)
(k : b = d) :
c ≤ d := by cc
Huỳnh Trần Khanh (Jun 10 2021 at 13:25):
The congruence closure tactic is based on the union-find data structure, which is very popular in competitive programming. You are from China, right? I know Chinese people are competitive programming gods!
Kunhao Zheng (Jun 10 2021 at 16:17):
Huỳnh Trần Khanh said:
The congruence closure tactic is based on the union-find data structure, which is very popular in competitive programming. You are from China, right? I know Chinese people are competitive programming gods!
Thank you for the hint! You're right. Though I have a CS background but I'm not so good at the competition :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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