Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: new members
Topic: Show that z is in a1
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:23):
How do I prove that z in a vector space is an element of which is in a subspace R V?
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:24):
import analysis.complex.circle
import analysis.normed_space.inner_product
noncomputable theory
open complex
variables {V : Type*} [inner_product_space ℂ V]
example {V : Type u_1}
[inner_product_space ℂ V]
(a₁ : subspace ℝ V)
[complete_space ↥a₁]
(z : V) :
z ∈ a₁ :=
begin
admit,
end
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 15:30):
What's the t
argument doing there?
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:32):
Sorry, you are right, we do not need that
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 15:34):
What's your maths proof?
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 15:35):
Because this similar statement is obviously false:
example {V : Type u_1} [add_comm_monoid V] [module ℝ V]
(a₁ : subspace ℝ V)
(z : V) :
z ∈ a₁ :=
begin
-- false, pick `V = ℝ`, `a₁ = ⊥`, `z = 37`
end
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:40):
Z does not always have to be in , but z can be on the line ; I do not have maths proof because I do not know how to prove this goal.
Kyle Miller (Aug 19 2021 at 15:44):
In math english your example is saying "For every subspace a_1 of a vector space V, and for every z in V, then z is in a_1." This is not in general true, unless we know more about a_1. What's the bigger picture of what you're trying to prove?
Eric Rodriguez (Aug 19 2021 at 15:45):
do you mean ∀ V, ∃ a₁ : subspace ℝ V, z ∈ a₁
?
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:49):
Yeah @Eric Rodriguez that reflects what I'm trying to say much clearer
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 15:50):
That means something very different though. The question is once again "what's your maths proof?".
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 15:53):
Sorry, I will get back to you
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 16:05):
but z can be on the line
This is your maths proof, right? "choose as the line through z
, result is trivial"
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 16:06):
Eric Rodriguez said:
do you mean
∀ V, ∃ a₁ : subspace ℝ V, z ∈ a₁
?
Missing z
, ∀ z : V, ∃ a₁ : subspace ℝ V, z ∈ a₁
.
Shadman Sakib (Aug 19 2021 at 18:21):
I presume is a fixed line, since there is a specific given to us
Eric Wieser (Aug 19 2021 at 18:36):
"given to us" is not what "exists" means in the goal
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