Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: new members
Topic: a problem with simple groups
Billlie Franch (Jul 20 2023 at 09:09):
I would like to ask if someone knows how to formalize this problem: Groups of order pq are not simple, where p and q are prime numbers
Julian Berman (Jul 20 2023 at 09:39):
Do you perhaps know how to write down parts of that? Perhaps how to write down that G
is a group and that it's order is p * q
? If so it's good to write down what you know and folks can help fill in the rest
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Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 02:43):
Julian Berman said:
Do you perhaps know how to write down parts of that? Perhaps how to write down that
G
is a group and that it's order isp * q
? If so it's good to write down what you know and folks can help fill in the rest
sorry,I don't know how to describe that its order is p * q,can you help me ?
Thomas Browning (Jul 21 2023 at 03:45):
You could use something like Nat.card G = p * q
Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 05:06):
Can someone tell me how 'p and q are different prime numbers' should be expressed in lean4
Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:17):
variable (p q : \N) (hp : p.Prime) (hq : q.Prime) (hpq : p \ne q)
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Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 05:25):
Johan Commelin said:
variable (p q : \N) (hp : p.Prime) (hq : q.Prime) (hpq : p \ne q)
Thank you very much for your answer, I also want to ask how to express the conclusion that a group is not simple
Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:30):
Do you know how to express that a group is simple?
Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:32):
If you go to https://leanprover-community.github.io/, you can click on "API documentation" in the sidebar menu, which will take you to https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/.
Now start typing simplegroup
in the search bar, top right. You should get useful results.
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