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Stream: new members

Topic: a problem with simple groups


Billlie Franch (Jul 20 2023 at 09:09):

I would like to ask if someone knows how to formalize this problem: Groups of order pq are not simple, where p and q are prime numbers

Julian Berman (Jul 20 2023 at 09:39):

Do you perhaps know how to write down parts of that? Perhaps how to write down that G is a group and that it's order is p * q? If so it's good to write down what you know and folks can help fill in the rest

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Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 02:43):

Julian Berman said:

Do you perhaps know how to write down parts of that? Perhaps how to write down that G is a group and that it's order is p * q? If so it's good to write down what you know and folks can help fill in the rest

sorry,I don't know how to describe that its order is p * q,can you help me ?

Thomas Browning (Jul 21 2023 at 03:45):

You could use something like Nat.card G = p * q

Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 05:06):

Can someone tell me how 'p and q are different prime numbers' should be expressed in lean4

Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:17):

variable (p q : \N) (hp : p.Prime) (hq : q.Prime) (hpq : p \ne q)

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Billlie Franch (Jul 21 2023 at 05:25):

Johan Commelin said:

variable (p q : \N) (hp : p.Prime) (hq : q.Prime) (hpq : p \ne q)

Thank you very much for your answer, I also want to ask how to express the conclusion that a group is not simple

Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:30):

Do you know how to express that a group is simple?

Johan Commelin (Jul 21 2023 at 05:32):

If you go to https://leanprover-community.github.io/, you can click on "API documentation" in the sidebar menu, which will take you to https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/.

Now start typing simplegroup in the search bar, top right. You should get useful results.

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