Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: (uniform) inducing vs embedding
Yury G. Kudryashov (Mar 02 2020 at 01:29):
Hi, when a uniform_inducing
map is not uniform_embedding
? I see that uniform_embedding
is uniform_inducing
+ injective
but I don't see examples of uniform_inducing
non-injective maps in mathlib
. Is it possible, e.g., in a t2_space
? Or this is all about some strange topologies with glued points?
Reid Barton (Mar 02 2020 at 02:26):
If an inducing
map sends two points to the same thing then I think the two points have the same neighborhoods. Right Patrick?
Reid Barton (Mar 02 2020 at 02:27):
I think the examples are things like premetric spaces before you form the quotient by zero distance, eg, Cauchy sequences
Yury G. Kudryashov (Mar 02 2020 at 02:31):
I think this deserves to be mentioned in the docstring, and maybe a theorem (inducing + some separation ⇒ injective, thus embedding).
Yury G. Kudryashov (Mar 02 2020 at 02:31):
And probably we don't need injective
in emetric.uniform_embedding_iff
.
Reid Barton (Mar 02 2020 at 02:47):
Even T_0 is enough.
Patrick Massot (Mar 02 2020 at 07:42):
If an
inducing
map sends two points to the same thing then I think the two points have the same neighborhoods. Right Patrick?
Sure, it's almost the definition (and should be called something like inducing.nhds_eq_comap
).
Patrick Massot (Mar 02 2020 at 07:44):
Yury, the main application of uniform_inducing
is the map from a uniform space to its separated completion. You can read the perfectoid formalization paper if you'd like to know more about this.
Patrick Massot (Mar 02 2020 at 07:44):
And this is not an injective map if the original uniform space is not separated.
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