Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: maths

Topic: Basel problem / ζ(2)


Moritz Doll (May 05 2022 at 12:24):

I would like to know whether anyone works on proving that ζ(2)=π26ζ(2) = \frac{π^2}{6} using Parseval's identity. I proposed this as a project for an intern of mine. I guess the mathlib version would be to calculate the zeta function for all even natural numbers, so the student project is of independent interest.

Johan Commelin (May 05 2022 at 12:26):

Mathlib doesn't even have a definition of ζ\zeta at the moment, does it? I'm not aware of anyone working on ζ(2)=π2/6\zeta(2) = \pi^2/6.

Moritz Doll (May 05 2022 at 12:27):

Well ζ(2)=k=11k2ζ(2) = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{k^2} and I was just too lazy to write the RHS.

Johan Commelin (May 05 2022 at 12:28):

Fair enough. Maybe it exists somewhere in arithmetic_function?

Johan Commelin (May 05 2022 at 12:28):

docs#nat.arithmetic_function.zeta

Yaël Dillies (May 05 2022 at 12:29):

I'm not aware of anyone working on ζ(2)=π\zeta(2) = \pi.

I hope nobody is working on that!

Moritz Doll (May 05 2022 at 12:29):

analysis.fourier is imported nowhere, so there might be another proof, but not the one I have in mind

Riccardo Brasca (May 05 2022 at 12:53):

@Marc Masdeu proved it I think, but maybe it is not in mathlib

Riccardo Brasca (May 05 2022 at 12:53):

https://github.com/mmasdeu/euler

Marc Masdeu (May 05 2022 at 12:57):

I followed a proof that used some recurrences for integrals of trig functions, but didn't generalize to ζ(2n)\zeta(2n). Maybe it should be in mathlib, but I got distracted by other things. My opinion is that the one that should be in mathlib is the formula for ζ(2n)\zeta(2n), together with all the necessary lemmas about Bernoulli numbers.

David Loeffler (Jun 12 2022 at 20:46):

I have posted a PR #14701 which evaluates ζ(2k) for all k using Parseval's theorem. It's a bit on the rough side at present, but it's a complete proof. I'm working on converting it into digestible chunks for review (the first two instalments have already been reviewed).

Patrick Massot (Jun 12 2022 at 20:50):

Analytic number theory is on fire tonight!

David Loeffler (Jun 12 2022 at 20:56):

(I'm curious what the octopus emoji means?)

Patrick Massot (Jun 12 2022 at 20:58):

The octopus is meant to be celebrating something (at least in most emoji fonts it looks cheerful and raises two tentacles in the air).

Moritz Doll (Jun 13 2022 at 08:55):

David Loeffler said:

I have posted a PR #14701 which evaluates ζ(2k) for all k using Parseval's theorem. It's a bit on the rough side at present, but it's a complete proof. I'm working on converting it into digestible chunks for review (the first two instalments have already been reviewed).

Sorry, but it would have been nice if you had said that you are working on this.

David Loeffler (Jun 13 2022 at 09:00):

I didn't see this Zulip thread until too late, sadly.

David Loeffler (Jun 13 2022 at 10:02):

Actually this was a "side-effect" of another project: my longer-term goal is to prove the functional equation relating ζ(1-s) and ζ(s), going via Poisson summation and the modularity of the Jacobi half-integer-weight theta series (i.e. pretty much Riemann's original proof -- there are alternative shorter proofs using contour integration but those are harder to formalise with the current state of the library). So that was why I got involved in overhauling analysis.fourier; evaluating critical values of zeta wasn't the primary goal.


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