Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: maths

Topic: Birkhoff ergodic theorem


Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 04 2023 at 20:10):

Is there a proof of the Birkhoff ergodic theorem that works (directly) for functions f : α → E, not f : α → ℝ?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 04 2023 at 20:11):

I understand that we can prove it for f : α → ℝ, then go to f : α → E for a "nice" E (not sure about specific assumptions).

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 04 2023 at 22:29):

BTW, is it true for an infinite dimensional E?

Sebastien Gouezel (Sep 05 2023 at 06:19):

I only know proofs that go through , using the order structure and maximal inequalities. Once you have it for , you deduce it for an arbitrary Banach space (for ae strongly measurable functions), by approximating the function by a finite linear combination of characteristic functions. For each of these, the one-dimensional result applies, and taking the norm you can also estimate the error in the approximation using the one-dimensional result.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 05 2023 at 06:25):

Thank you! I'll think about details tomorrow.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 06 2023 at 22:24):

Is this implication written somewhere? I tried to fill in the details and failed.

Sebastien Gouezel (Sep 07 2023 at 05:37):

Maybe I was overly optimistic. Let me try to write down the details, in the ergodic case first for simplicity.

Let u : E -> F be integrable. It is approximated in L^1 by a simple function ∑ i, 1_{s_i} • a i, where a i are elements of F and s i are measurable sets. Say u = v + ∑ i, 1_{s_i} • a i where v has L^1 norm at most epsilon.

Then S_n u / n = S_n v / n + ∑ i, (S_n 1_{s_i})/n • a i. Almost everywhere, the latter sum converges (by Birkhoff applied to the real function 1_{s_i}), while the limsup of S_n v / n is bounded by epsilon (again by Birkhoff applied to the norm of v). It follows that S_n u / n oscillates asymptotically by at most epsilon.

Letting epsilon tend to zero along a countable sequence, one deduces that, almost surely, S_n u / n is a Cauchy sequence, therefore convergent. Its limit is an invariant function, therefore constant. As its integral is the integral of u, this constant is the integral of u.

Sebastien Gouezel (Sep 07 2023 at 05:38):

Consider now the slightly harder non-ergodic case. Then S_n ||v|| / n still converges almost surely, but its limit (the conditional expectation of ||v|| with respect to the invariant sigma-algebra) doesn't have to be small everywhere. However, it is bounded by epsilon in L^1, so it is smaller than epsilon^{1/2} outside of a set of small measure (at most epsilon^{1/2}). Moreover, the conditional expectation of u is close to ∑ i, E(1_{s_i} | I) • a i again outside a set of small measure. Taking epsilon_n = 2^{-n} and applying Borel-Cantelli, one obtains the almost sure convergence of S_n u / n to E(u | I).

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 07 2023 at 07:04):

I think that I missed the Borel-Cantelli step when I was trying to do that. Thank you!

Sebastien Gouezel (Sep 17 2023 at 08:19):

I realized that we didn't even have the strong law of large numbers for vector-valued observables, so I implemented it following the above proof sketch (but without the need for Borel-Cantelli as there are only constant limits), see #7218. It went pretty smoothly (although it highlighted some gaps in the library and some superfluous second-countability assumptions here and there, as always).

Yury G. Kudryashov (Sep 17 2023 at 22:11):

In the meantime, I'm busy with dull stuff like getting rid of docs#Metric.Bounded and migrating to docs#Bornology.IsBounded.


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