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Stream: maths

Topic: Conservative, ae


Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 25 2024 at 15:36):

The notion of docs#MeasureTheory.Conservative depends on ae μ only. Does it make sense to consider this for other countably interection filters? E.g., what do we get for residual?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 25 2024 at 15:39):

UPD: No, it also depends on the σ-algebra of measurable sets.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 25 2024 at 15:40):

But it's about MeasurableSpace, not Measure.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 27 2024 at 22:47):

Another related question: should we generalize docs#MeasureTheory.IsFundamentalDomain to any filter + EventuallyMeasurableSet?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 27 2024 at 22:50):

@Felix Weilacher :up:

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 28 2024 at 00:05):

Also, should we rename docs#MeasureTheory.HasFundamentalDomain to IsDissipative?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Aug 28 2024 at 00:06):

... and what's the right definition of "conservative" for a group action?

Felix Weilacher (Aug 28 2024 at 22:02):

I certainly agree that Conservative depends only on the filter of conull sets.

Would it make sense to have a class of CountableInterFilters which arise as ae m for some suitably nice measure m on fixed MeasurableSpace? (I.e, as is discussed here) Certainly in informal math people are often thinking only of these filters, and don't really care which equivalent measure is chosen.

Anyways, the notion certainly makes sense for any Filter on a Measurable Space. For residual, for maps with enough continuity on nice enough spaces, it will be the same as saying every nonempty open set has nonempty intersection with one of its iterates.

Felix Weilacher (Aug 28 2024 at 22:03):

Is there not a fundamental-domain definition which doesn't assume any measurable structure?


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