Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Euler factorization
Wouter Smeenk (Aug 29 2023 at 17:13):
Is it possible to extend Euler factorization (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_factorization_method#Theoretical_basis) to 3 factors? Meaning if n can be expressed as the sum of 2 squares in 4 ways it can be expressed as 3 factors. The converse follows from the Brahmagupta–Fibonacci identity applied twice. Is there some result on this? I could not find anything on this.
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 29 2023 at 21:09):
I don't quite understand the question but if a natural number can be written as the sum of two squares in four essentially different ways then this corresponds to four different factorisations in which means that it can't be the product of <= 2 primes in .
Wouter Smeenk (Aug 30 2023 at 05:07):
I mean if we have n = a^2 + b^2 = c^2 + d^2 = e^ + f^2 = g^2 + h^2 can we express n as n = (k ^ 2 + h ^ 2)(l ^ 2 + m ^ 2)(n ^ 2 + p ^ 2) in a way where we can calculate k,h,l,m,n and p using a,b,c,d,e,f,g and h (like is done for two factors in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_factorization_method#Theoretical_basis)
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 30 2023 at 06:01):
The answer to that question is yes because (modulo the fact that you used h and n twice) you can just let k=l=0,h=m=1 and n=a,p=b.
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 30 2023 at 06:01):
(reordered)
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 30 2023 at 06:02):
The way to answer the question you probably mean to ask is "think about factorisations in Z[i]"
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 30 2023 at 06:07):
The idea is that n=a^2+b^2 can be reinterpreted as n=(a+bi)(a-bi) and Z[i] is a UFD.
Wouter Smeenk (Aug 30 2023 at 15:02):
Ah, I did not notice the duplicate use of n and h. That is indeed a solution, but I think there are also non trivial solutions. Is it possible to rewrite the proof in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_factorization_method#Theoretical_basis using Z[i] and the reinterpretation you mentioned? I will look in to Z[i] more. Thanks for the help.
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