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Topic: Existence of a non-expanding linear projection


Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 04:54):

What are the conditions on a normed space E and its subspace s that guarantee existence of a linear projection π : E →L[Real] s such that ‖π x‖ ≤ ‖x‖ for all x?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 04:55):

E.g., it clearly holds for a closed subspace in a Hilbert space and for a 1-dimensional subspace in any space.

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 04:57):

You don't require π to be continuous?

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 04:57):

oops, sorry, I just saw the instead of L was confused

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 04:57):

The inequality implies that π is continuous of norm ≤1.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 04:58):

(the norm will be zero, if all spaces are trivial)

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 04:58):

right, of course, I just got tripped by the notation.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 04:58):

Edited

Junyan Xu (Dec 27 2024 at 05:05):

This question contains some relevant references.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 05:07):

Is there a simple counterexample in finite dimensions?

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 05:21):

There's this paper about projections of norm 1.

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 05:21):

But this is only about Banach spaces.

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 27 2024 at 05:25):

Theorem 5.8 [39]. Let X be a Banach space over ℂ or ℝ. Let M be a closed linear subspace of X. M is the range of a contractive projection if and only if there exists a weak∗-closed linear subspace L of X∗ with M ⊂ J⁻¹(L) and L ⊂ norm_closure(J(M)).

This appears to be the most general characterization of contractively complemented subspaces known.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 05:26):

Thanks! I think I don't need more details.

Antoine Chambert-Loir (Dec 27 2024 at 06:43):

Yury G. Kudryashov said:

E.g., it clearly holds for a closed subspace in a Hilbert space and for a 1-dimensional subspace in any space.

why, in the second case?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 06:46):

Due to Hahn-Banach extension theorem?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 27 2024 at 06:53):

(it's past midnight here, so probability of me being wrong is larger than usual)

Christopher Hoskin (Dec 30 2024 at 07:42):

Yury G. Kudryashov said:

Thanks! I think I don't need more details.

Noted, but in case anyone else is interested, contractive projections on Banach spaces are of great interest in certain models of quantum mechanics because the class of JB star triples is stable under contractive projections (Kaup, Contractive Projections on Jordan C*-algebras and Generalizations, Math. Scand. 54 (1984), 95-100).

Christopher Hoskin (Dec 30 2024 at 17:46):

Coincidentally I opened #20330 yesterday which may be of interest?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 30 2024 at 19:54):

We already have docs#Submodule.linearProjOfClosedCompl

Jireh Loreaux (Dec 30 2024 at 21:12):

Yury, Christopher knows about this (indeed, it is used in the construction). The point of #20330 is that the map is E →L[𝕜] E, not E →L[𝕜] ↥p.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 30 2024 at 23:57):

It wasn't used in the previous version of the PR.


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