Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Interface for algebras
Chris Hughes (Dec 18 2019 at 11:18):
I'm trying to finish off algebraic closure.
The interface for algebras is really difficult to use as soon as there are a lot of fields involved.
Right now I have fields K
, L
and M
, such that algebra K L
, algebra L M
and algebra K M
, and the ring homs all commute, but not by definition.
If want to turn an L-algebra hom from M
into a K-algebra hom. Normally I would use alg_hom.comap
to do this, but that would require the canonical homs to commute by definition, which they do not.
I feel like maybe algebra should not be a class, and we should just use explicit homs.
Patrick Massot (Dec 18 2019 at 11:33):
Maybe related question: can anyone prove
import ring_theory.algebra_operations example {R : Type*} [comm_ring R] : (algebra.to_module : module ℤ R) = add_comm_group.module := sorry
Chris Hughes (Dec 18 2019 at 11:36):
The solution to that is to redefine the Z-algebra instance so that they're defeq.
Patrick Massot (Dec 18 2019 at 12:01):
I have no idea how to do that. I know very little about that part of the library.
Chris Hughes (Dec 18 2019 at 12:15):
I have no idea how to do that. I know very little about that part of the library.
Johan Commelin (Dec 18 2019 at 12:21):
I'm trying to finish off algebraic closure.
The interface for algebras is really difficult to use as soon as there are a lot of fields involved.
Right now I have fieldsK
,L
andM
, such thatalgebra K L
,algebra L M
andalgebra K M
, and the ring homs all commute, but not by definition.If want to turn an L-algebra hom from
M
into a K-algebra hom. Normally I would usealg_hom.comap
to do this, but that would require the canonical homs to commute by definition, which they do not.I feel like maybe algebra should not be a class, and we should just use explicit homs.
This has been a major pain point and major concern for me as well. I have no idea what the library would look like if we use explicit homs. But I fear it won't look like maths as I know it. Otoh, most lean code doesn't look like that anyway...
Johan Commelin (Dec 18 2019 at 12:57):
I have no idea how to do that. I know very little about that part of the library.
Thanks, it's on the queue.
Johan Commelin (Dec 18 2019 at 12:57):
And merged :smiley: [Thank you Travis, thank you Mergify]
Patrick Massot (Dec 18 2019 at 13:15):
I have no idea how to do that. I know very little about that part of the library.
Thank you very much Chris!
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