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Stream: maths

Topic: Multi-variable Fourier analysis


David Loeffler (Nov 13 2024 at 21:11):

I see that @Junyan Xu posted on #18477 (relaxing a hypothesis in the Poisson summation formula), shortly before it got merged, asking about generalisations to the multi-variable case; but the PR got merged and closed before anyone had time to reply. So I'd like to continue the discussion here.

Is anyone currently working on multi-variable Fourier analysis (either Fourier series or Fourier transforms or both)? And, what versions of these theories would people in this community like to see formalised in the future?

FWIW, I have a (rather old) git branch somewhere which generalises the theorems about Fourier series from Analysis/Fourier/AddCircle.lean from functions on R/Z\mathbb{R} / \mathbb{Z} to functions on Rn/Zn\mathbb{R}^n / \mathbb{Z}^n. I didn't attempt to PR it yet, because I wasn't 100% convinced it was the right approach – should one work with Rn/Zn\mathbb{R}^n / \mathbb{Z}^n and deduce results about general finite-dimensional spaces from this, or maybe iR/tiZ\prod_i \mathbb{R} / t_i \mathbb{Z} for some vector of positive reals (t1,,tn)(t_1, \dots, t_n), or should one rather work from the start with V/Λ V / \Lambda, where V is a finite-diml' real vector space and Λ\Lambda a full-rank lattice in V? Anyway, this is the sort of question I think it would be good to discuss.

Michael Stoll (Nov 13 2024 at 21:19):

I would say we want the general lattice version eventually. Whether it is easier to get there via products of circles or directly is perhaps a more technical question.

Junyan Xu (Nov 13 2024 at 21:27):

I think I've seen this thread (Poisson summation on lattices) a while ago, but had forgotten about it when I posted; this new thread could probably be merged with it.
D-dimensional Fourier analysis is another relevant thread

Kevin Buzzard (Nov 13 2024 at 21:32):

AK/K\mathbb{A}_K/K ;-)

Thomas Browning (Nov 14 2024 at 01:43):

Eventually, this will all be covered by the Pontryagin dual, but that's still a long way off.

David Loeffler (Nov 14 2024 at 06:49):

@Thomas Browning What are the general statement about Pontryagin duality you are aiming for which would imply the main theorems of Fourier analysis for R\mathbb{R} and R/Z\mathbb{R} / \mathbb{Z}?

In my head Pontryagin duality is the statement that for an LCA group GG^^G \stackrel{\sim}{\to} \widehat{\widehat{G}}. But that doesn't tell us much for G=R/ZG = \mathbb{R} / \mathbb{Z}. I guess you are referring to some statement beyond that – maybe that the Fourier transform is a bijection between suitable function spaces on GG and G^\widehat{G}, perhaps for L^2 functions, or Schwartz functions?

How would you recover e.g. Poisson summation from this general theory?

Thomas Browning (Nov 14 2024 at 13:47):

My memory is that if you have a short exact sequence of locally compact Hausdorff abelian topological groups
0ABC00\to A\to B\to C\to 0
with compatible Haar measures
Bf(b)db=CAf(ac)dadc,\int_Bf(b)\,db=\int_C\int_Af(ac)\,da\,dc,
then you get a Poisson summation formula
Af(a)da=C^f^(c^)dc^.\int_Af(a)\,da=\int_{\widehat{C}}\widehat{f}(\hat{c})\,d\hat{c}.
The proof is the same as the usual one: Apply the Fourier inversion theorem to
F(c)=Af(ac)da.F(c)=\int_Af(ac)\,da.

Thomas Browning (Nov 14 2024 at 13:51):

Here's an old note of mine that I dug up:
PoissonSummation.pdf

Thomas Browning (Nov 14 2024 at 14:10):

David Loeffler said:

Thomas Browning What are the general statement about Pontryagin duality you are aiming for which would imply the main theorems of Fourier analysis for R\mathbb{R} and R/Z\mathbb{R} / \mathbb{Z}?

It's more that all of the main theorems of Fourier analysis generalize to the Pontryagin dual (the Fourier inversion theorem, the Poisson summation formula, Plancherel's theorem).

Antoine Chambert-Loir (Nov 19 2024 at 22:06):

All of the above is fine, except that in concrete cases, one wishes to have a specific model of the Pontryagin dual. For example in the case of the exact sequence that leads to the general version of Poisson, one often wishes to view C^\widehat C has the orthogonal of AA in B^\widehat B. Analogously, characters of V/ΛV/\Lambda are usually seen as some sublattice of VV^\vee (those for which the duality pairing with all elements of Λ\Lambda is integral).

Antoine Chambert-Loir (Nov 19 2024 at 22:07):

It is probably useful to have some “duality” typeclass here.


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