Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Notation for ext_chart_at
Winston Yin (Nov 01 2022 at 00:34):
Would anyone object to a new notation for docs#ext_chart_at? They are quite a pain to type repetitively when working with manifolds. I propose 𝓔(I, x) to mean ext_chart_at I x, where the script E is entered with \MCE.
Winston Yin (Nov 01 2022 at 05:21):
PR #17294 shows the effect of the new notation for ext_chart_at.
Floris van Doorn (Nov 01 2022 at 20:09):
I haven't found ext_chart_at particularly annoying to write myself, so I'm neutral towards this proposal.
If we do this, do we want similar notation for chart_at?
Winston Yin (Nov 02 2022 at 07:34):
𝓔(I, x)is much shorter, allowing formulas involving them to look like their regular mathematical counterparts. For me, it has made reading and thinking about these formulas much quicker.- I find myself going back and adding parentheses to
ext_chart_at I xall the time when I need to append.symm,.source,.target. Writing𝓔(I, x)would eliminate the need for this decision. - The notation
𝓝fornhdsseems like a negative improvement (5 keystrokes instead of 4 including shift key) compared to𝓔forext_chart_at(5 instead of 14).
Winston Yin (Nov 02 2022 at 07:36):
As for chart_at, I guess a natural choice would be 𝓒 (\MCC), but it looks so darn similar to 𝓔.
Winston Yin (Nov 02 2022 at 07:39):
One alternative proposal would be to use 𝓒(H, x) (script C) for chart_at and e𝓒(I, x) or 𝓒ₑ(I, x) for ext_chart_at (also script C).
Kevin Buzzard (Nov 02 2022 at 07:41):
If you just want this for files you're writing you can use local notation, this trick (or a local abbreviation) is used several times in mathlib to save typing
Floris van Doorn (Nov 02 2022 at 07:57):
Not everything is about saving keystrokes. We use 𝓝 in mathlib because it is commonly used notation for neighborhoods.
Patrick Massot (Nov 02 2022 at 08:13):
Winston, the neighborhood notation does save key, you only need to type \nh to trigger it.
Winston Yin (Nov 02 2022 at 10:16):
I suppose a local notation is sufficient for my use. Thanks for the comments!
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