Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: maths

Topic: Partition of unity


Yury G. Kudryashov (Feb 25 2021 at 07:01):

Hi, I'm trying to formalize smooth partition of unity. Is there anyone else interested in this? Current progress:

  • paracompact spaces : done, polishing for a PR, see #6395
  • shrinking lemma: WIP;
  • smooth bump function: done, needs refactoring;
  • general partition of unity: not started.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 06:51):

First, #8281 formalizes continuous and smooth partitions of unity. Second, I'm trying to write something about it. A very rough draft is here: paper1.pdf
This is my first attempt to write a text about formalization, so it may be very bad. Comments are welcome.

Sebastien Gouezel (Jul 15 2021 at 07:09):

Lean is not the only proof assistant with manifolds https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3293880.3294093

Kevin Buzzard (Jul 15 2021 at 07:11):

My impression from papers in this area is that if it has been formalised before, you have to clearly explain what new things your work brings to the table.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 07:14):

I didn't know that Isabelle has partitions of unity. Then probably this is not publishable.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 07:15):

@Sebastien Gouezel Thanks for the reference.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 07:21):

Do you know if someone has formalized the weak Whitney embedding thm?

Johan Commelin (Jul 15 2021 at 07:25):

If anywhere, I guess it would be in Isabelle.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 07:27):

Google doesn't find it but I've managed to miss the Isabelle manifolds library...

Eric Wieser (Jul 15 2021 at 08:31):

I assume the paper is for FMM 2021, based on the weird footnote in the LaTeX style?

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 09:25):

Not anymore, because I assume that it is not publishable without the Whitney embedding thm.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 09:25):

Now I'm trying to revive an older draft about rotation numbers. It seems that I have either 1h35 or 2h35 till deadline.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 09:27):

And this as a draft.

Patrick Massot (Jul 15 2021 at 09:32):

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Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 09:38):

[answering to the deleted post] The abstract of the paper linked by Sebastien says that they have partitions of unity too. I'm going to formalize the weak Whitney embedding thm soon, then revive this paper with this thm as a selling point (unless the actual Isabelle library has it; I'll look into this tomorrow).

Patrick Massot (Jul 15 2021 at 09:38):

Sorry, I wrote my message and then checked the Isabelle formalization and saw it has partitions of unity, that's why I deleted it.

Patrick Massot (Jul 15 2021 at 09:41):

We really need to do something with our manifolds to go further than in Isabelle. I really thought my sphere eversion project would do the trick, but nobody helped and then LTE came and took all forces (including me).

Sebastien Gouezel (Jul 15 2021 at 09:58):

We are already further than Isabelle in the sense that the tangent bundle is a manifold, so you can take the tangent bundle of a tangent bundle, or see the derivative of a smooth map as a smooth map between tangent bundles.

Patrick Massot (Jul 15 2021 at 10:48):

This is still very much foundational, I don't count this as "doing something with manifolds".

Sebastien Gouezel (Jul 15 2021 at 11:30):

Sure!

Heather Macbeth (Jul 15 2021 at 14:39):

@Yury G. Kudryashov I wonder if the following other application of partitions of unity is within reach: if ω1\omega_1 and ω2\omega_2 are two volume forms on the same manifold MM (or, given the current state of tensors, let's say two nice measures which are smooth-function-multiples of each other) with the same total mass, then there exists a self-diffeomorphism of MM which takes ω1\omega_1 to ω2\omega_2.

Heather Macbeth (Jul 15 2021 at 14:40):

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1994022

Heather Macbeth (Jul 15 2021 at 14:41):

I just glanced through the proof and it doesn't even use existence and uniqueness for ODEs (although that might be doable too), instead it has some trick using integration.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 15:40):

/me is going to read the proof.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 15:44):

About the statement: we can talk about smooth functions and multiplication by the Jacobian. We can leave the "measure" or "differential form" interpretation to comments.

Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2021 at 15:55):

(ignore, I'm too sleepy now)


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