Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Product of nonmeasurable sets
Yury G. Kudryashov (Oct 07 2023 at 03:35):
Is it true that with some reasonable typeclass assumptions we have ν t ≠ 0 → NullMeasurableSet (s ×ˢ t) (μ.prod ν) → NullMeasurableSet s μ
? What are these assumptions? How do I prove this? I tried to google but found incorrect proofs only.
Antoine Chambert-Loir (Oct 07 2023 at 10:46):
I would guess that it follows from Fubini, with a “locally null measurable” variant if the measures do not satisfy Fubini.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Oct 07 2023 at 12:42):
How?
Felix Weilacher (Oct 08 2023 at 04:07):
Does this work?
Let A and B be measurable such that the product measure of B \ A is 0 and A \subset s x t \subset B. If Tonelli holds, then since t has positive measure, there is some y \in t such that B^y \ A^y has mu-measure 0. But A^y \subset s \subset B^y.
Felix Weilacher (Oct 08 2023 at 04:09):
By C^y for C a subset of the plane, I mean {x | (x,y) \in C}
Felix Weilacher (Oct 08 2023 at 04:15):
Also, if t is simply non measurable rather than having positive measure, this still works. If a measurable function is positive on some non-null set, it is positive on some measurable set of positive measure
Yury G. Kudryashov (Oct 08 2023 at 18:36):
I'll try to formalize this now.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Oct 08 2023 at 23:50):
Thanks! #7578
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