Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Proof help
duck (Dec 03 2024 at 14:37):
Hi everybody, I have this statement
example {n : ℕ} (h: 2 < n): n ! < n^n - n := by sorry
that seems easy to prove on paper but formalizing it seems tricky and I’m not sure I can do it with induction
Daniel Weber (Dec 03 2024 at 15:14):
What is your paper proof?
Daniel Weber (Dec 03 2024 at 15:16):
You can say n ^ n - n = n (n-1) n^(n-2)
and n! = n (n - 1) (n - 2)!
, and then you can get the result from (n-2)! ≤ (n-2)^(n-2) ≤ n^(n-2)
duck (Dec 04 2024 at 00:01):
Ah but n^n - n is not n (n - 1) n^(n-2)
duck (Dec 04 2024 at 01:28):
But I think I’ve got it thanks so much
duck (Dec 04 2024 at 14:07):
Actually on second thought maybe not
Daniel Weber (Dec 04 2024 at 15:04):
duck said:
Ah but n^n - n is not n (n - 1) n^(n-2)
Of course, apologies. You can do though
duck (Dec 04 2024 at 23:27):
That does the trick. Thank you so much
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