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Stream: maths

Topic: Proof help


duck (Dec 03 2024 at 14:37):

Hi everybody, I have this statement

example {n : } (h: 2 < n): n ! < n^n - n := by sorry

that seems easy to prove on paper but formalizing it seems tricky and I’m not sure I can do it with induction

Daniel Weber (Dec 03 2024 at 15:14):

What is your paper proof?

Daniel Weber (Dec 03 2024 at 15:16):

You can say n ^ n - n = n (n-1) n^(n-2) and n! = n (n - 1) (n - 2)!, and then you can get the result from (n-2)! ≤ (n-2)^(n-2) ≤ n^(n-2)

duck (Dec 04 2024 at 00:01):

Ah but n^n - n is not n (n - 1) n^(n-2)

duck (Dec 04 2024 at 01:28):

But I think I’ve got it thanks so much

duck (Dec 04 2024 at 14:07):

Actually on second thought maybe not

Daniel Weber (Dec 04 2024 at 15:04):

duck said:

Ah but n^n - n is not n (n - 1) n^(n-2)

Of course, apologies. You can do nnnnnnn1=n(n1)nn2n^n - n \ge n^n - n^{n-1} = n (n-1) n^{n-2} though

duck (Dec 04 2024 at 23:27):

That does the trick. Thank you so much


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