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Stream: maths

Topic: Riddle about SeminormedAddGroup


Kenny Lau (Jul 24 2025 at 11:22):

Is there a SeminormedAddGroup where the image of the norm is (similar enough to) the set {0, 1+1, 1+1/2, 1+1/3, 1+1/4, ...}?

Kenny Lau (Jul 24 2025 at 11:24):

(where "similar enough to" means that it's order-isomorphic and 0 is still not the limit)

Matthew Jasper (Jul 24 2025 at 11:39):

ℕ →₀ ZMod 2 with ‖f‖ = 1 + 1 / (1 + inf {n|f n ≠ 0})

Edward van de Meent (Jul 24 2025 at 11:42):

i'm not sure that works? surely you must have that ‖0‖=0?

Edward van de Meent (Jul 24 2025 at 11:42):

or am i overlooking something?

Matthew Jasper (Jul 24 2025 at 12:09):

I meant for the equality to be for non-zero f

Kenny Lau (Jul 24 2025 at 12:13):

so i wanted to prove that the nhds 0 is generated by { y : |y| < |x| } for x such that |x|>0 but i couldn’t rule out this case (following mathlib’s convention i would prove it in the highest generality, since this is obviously true for fields)

Kenny Lau (Jul 24 2025 at 12:14):

so this counterexample is interesting because {0} is open but you cant write it “internally” using B(0,|x|)

Kenny Lau (Jul 24 2025 at 12:14):

cc @Andrew Yang

Yakov Pechersky (Jul 24 2025 at 12:26):

Since you have a singleton open, you have a discrete topology. This is finer than docs#Valuation.subgroups_basis


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