Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: Tensor product and exact sequences
Andrew Yang (May 22 2024 at 18:06):
Say we have two exact sequence of -modules: and with flat. If is injective, how can I show that is also injective? This is trivial by showing but is there a more mathlib-friendly proof?
Brendan Seamas Murphy (May 22 2024 at 21:59):
You can prove it by taking a flat resolution . First apply the snake lemma to part of the diagram you get by tensoring this resolution and and you'll find that is injective. Then this allows you to apply to the snake lemma to part of the diagram you get by tensoring the resolution with , and this implies that is a kernel of (hence injective). I think this is what you would get by unraveling the Tor proof.
Here are some pictures with the subdiagrams you'd want to apply the :snake: lemma too highlighted in orange 257c32c9-4d5c-42c3-bb76-04b0e73b89e6.png
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Brendan Seamas Murphy (May 22 2024 at 22:00):
Can't say this is especially "mathlib-friendly" though
Brendan Seamas Murphy (May 22 2024 at 22:01):
Oops, I swapped the order in the tensor product without noticing when drawing the diagrams. I'll leave fixing that to the reader
Andrew Yang (May 23 2024 at 02:48):
Thanks a lot! Now let me try to make this work in mathlib...
Brendan Seamas Murphy (May 26 2024 at 16:48):
What I wrote above isn't right. You need to take an exact sequence (and we can't assume is flat here). Without this injectivity of is hopeless. The proof still works but the top left zero in each diagram shouldn't be there (bc tensoring with isn't left exact)
Brendan Seamas Murphy (May 26 2024 at 16:50):
This makes the second part of the argument even more annoying, bc you need to argue that the image of is the same as the image of , but I think it's fine in the end
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