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Stream: maths
Topic: cast_subgroup_of_units_card_ne_zero for infinite fields
Bolton Bailey (Aug 11 2023 at 15:39):
I have this theorem in recent PR for finite fields K
theorem cast_subgroup_of_units_card_ne_zero [DecidableEq K]
(G : Subgroup (Units (K))) [Fintype G] : (Fintype.card G : K) ≠ 0 := by
Does anyone know if it's also true of infinite fields as well?
Damiano Testa (Aug 11 2023 at 15:51):
Isn't the additive span of G
also closed under multiplication? If so, then it is a finite subfield and your previous result should apply.
Kevin Buzzard (Aug 11 2023 at 15:58):
This is true for infinite fields. If G is a finite subgroup of K^* and |G|=0 in K then K must have char p for some prime and G must have an element of order p, but x^p=1 implies (x-1)^p=0 and hence x=1, meaning x didn't have order p after all, contradiction.
Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 15:03):
This was a good exercise.
Bolton Bailey (Aug 12 2023 at 21:33):
Cool! Do you mind if I add this to #6500 @Buster? (Or you can add it yourself)
Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 22:03):
I don't mind at all! Probably easier if you do it, if that's ok.
Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 22:05):
I assume lots of improvements to the style and substance are possible. In particular, is that finiteness assumption (h : Fintype G)
a bit weird?
(And Type u
is a typo.)
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