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Stream: maths

Topic: cast_subgroup_of_units_card_ne_zero for infinite fields


Bolton Bailey (Aug 11 2023 at 15:39):

I have this theorem in recent PR for finite fields K

theorem cast_subgroup_of_units_card_ne_zero [DecidableEq K]
    (G : Subgroup (Units (K))) [Fintype G] : (Fintype.card G : K)  0 := by

Does anyone know if it's also true of infinite fields as well?

Damiano Testa (Aug 11 2023 at 15:51):

Isn't the additive span of G also closed under multiplication? If so, then it is a finite subfield and your previous result should apply.

Kevin Buzzard (Aug 11 2023 at 15:58):

This is true for infinite fields. If G is a finite subgroup of K^* and |G|=0 in K then K must have char p for some prime and G must have an element of order p, but x^p=1 implies (x-1)^p=0 and hence x=1, meaning x didn't have order p after all, contradiction.

Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 15:03):

This was a good exercise.

Bolton Bailey (Aug 12 2023 at 21:33):

Cool! Do you mind if I add this to #6500 @Buster? (Or you can add it yourself)

Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 22:03):

I don't mind at all! Probably easier if you do it, if that's ok.

Richard Copley (Aug 12 2023 at 22:05):

I assume lots of improvements to the style and substance are possible. In particular, is that finiteness assumption (h : Fintype G) a bit weird?

(And Type u is a typo.)


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