Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: maths

Topic: degrees of polynomials


Kevin Buzzard (Sep 07 2018 at 11:46):

@Chris Hughes told me a while ago that the degree of a polynomial is a bit of a nightmare, because the zero polynomial has degree -1 or -infinity or something, and these are not nats. It seems that he went with degree into with_bot nat and nat_degree into nat (with nat_degree of 0 being 0). I am now faced with goals like

hf : ¬f = 0,
hg : ¬g = 0,
hd : nat_degree f < nat_degree g,
⊢ degree f + ↑(nat_degree g - nat_degree f) = degree g

There's a lemma saying that if f is non-zero then degree f = ↑(nat_degree f) but if I go down that route then I can't seem to use nat.cast_add etc, probably because although with_bot nat is an add_monoid, the coercion is not the usual one from nat to an add_monoid with a 1, it's like the coercion from nat to int. I think that this may mean that all of the lemmas of the form ↑(m+n)=↑m+↑n for add, mul, le etc all need to be written by hand for this coercion from nat to with_bot nat, just like we have int.coe_nat_add etc. Am I correct? I ask because I need them for Hilbert Basis and I may as well get on and do them if they need doing. Or am I missing a trick?

Chris Hughes (Sep 07 2018 at 11:49):

I think with_bot.coe_add is the lemma you need.

Kevin Buzzard (Sep 07 2018 at 11:49):

oh boy -- so I'm right but they're already there? Thanks Chris!


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