Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: group acting on group
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:05):
Do we have a name for a group acting on another group that is compatible with the group structure?
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:19):
There is this thing called G-module
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:19):
But then you act on abelian groups
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:19):
but a group is not a module
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:19):
right
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:21):
Where does this show up?
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:21):
in my brain
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:21):
i'm just making this up
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
oh wait, this does show up in group theory
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
a group acts on a normal subgroup by conjugation
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
Ok, G-modules show up a lot in group cohomology
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
Aah, ok, sure
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
right, i'm learning group cohomology right now
Kenny Lau (Apr 09 2018 at 13:22):
and then an action of G on N is just a homomorphism G -> Aut(N)
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:23):
Sure, but if G acts on G', it is also just a homom G -> Aut(G')
jmc (Apr 09 2018 at 13:23):
if the action is compatible with the group structure
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 09 2018 at 13:27):
If the group M you're acting on is abelian, then this is just called a G-module usually (G the group doing the acting)
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 09 2018 at 13:28):
If M is not abelian then this is sometimes called a "non-abelian G-module" and the theory very quickly gets technical
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 09 2018 at 13:28):
H^1 is no longer a group, but just a pointed set
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 09 2018 at 13:28):
and for higher cohomology groups one has to use fancy stuff like gerbes
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 09 2018 at 13:29):
See Serre's book on Galois cohomology (some appendix) for a brief and clear introduction.
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