Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: hatcher cell complex
Tony (May 29 2021 at 19:31):
I'm looking at https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib-overview.html and I don't see anything for simplicial complex or delta complex as seen in Hatcher's Algebraic Topology text.
I expect formalizing this could get tricky with complex -vs- geometric realization as a space. Has the community thought about this yet? (Someday it would be really cool to formalize some geometric group theory / cube complex / RAAG work)
Yaël Dillies (May 29 2021 at 19:36):
@Bhavik Mehta and I have been doing simplicial complexes for the combinatorial side of things (Sperner's lemma). Nothing on the algebraic side, really. All of our work is on the branch sperner-again
of mathlib.
Adam Topaz (May 29 2021 at 19:37):
We have docs#category_theory.simplicial_object
Adam Topaz (May 29 2021 at 19:38):
Still no geometric realizations of simplicial sets, as far as I remember.
Johan Commelin (May 29 2021 at 19:38):
branch#sset had geometric realizations, but not yet the adjunction.
Johan Commelin (May 29 2021 at 19:39):
But I fear that it's not compatible with mathlibs current docs#category_theory.simplicial_object. Otoh, it shouldn't be too hard to port.
Adam Topaz (May 29 2021 at 19:39):
(I always forget that simplicial objects are in the category theory namespace...)
Johan Commelin (May 29 2021 at 19:42):
Well, we can't PR to your brain to fix that... so maybe we can change mathlib?
Adam Topaz (May 29 2021 at 19:43):
nah, I think it deserves to be in that namespace.
Adam Topaz (May 29 2021 at 19:44):
Maybe the simplicial_object files should move to the category_theory folder?
Tony (May 29 2021 at 19:44):
My guess is dealing with all the attaching maps could get rough. Here's some concrete results that would use the material: http://www.math.utah.edu/pcmi12/lecture_notes/sageev.pdf
Simplicial looks like the place to start thanks. I'd be happy with just a formalized defn of delta-complex or CW-complex.
Johan Commelin (May 29 2021 at 19:48):
There has been discussion about how to formalize CW-complexes on this zulip. You might want to search the history.
Tony (May 29 2021 at 19:48):
Maybe something more formal would be a reasonable goal:
Euclidean Neighborhood Retracts
Homotopy Extension Property
etc.
Tony (May 29 2021 at 19:49):
I was looking for cell, seems people have talked about it!
Tony (Jun 06 2021 at 06:05):
Something like this from Lee maybe:
Theorem 5.20 (CW Construction Theorem). Suppose X 0  X 1   X n1  X n  is a sequence of topological spaces satisfying the following conditions:
X0
(i) is a nonempty discrete space. Topological Properties of CW Complexes
139
(ii) For each n 1, X n is obtained from X n1 by attaching a (possibly empty) collection of n-cells.
S Then X D n X n has a unique topology coherent with the family fX n g, and a unique cell decomposition making it into a CW complex whose n-skeleton is Xn for each n.
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