Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: help proving IVT
adriana (Apr 01 2020 at 02:55):
hello, I am just getting started using lean and was wondering if anyone could help me out
I am trying to prove the IVT using the basic functions in lean. Right now, I have the following:
theorem intermediate_value {f : ℝ → ℝ} (Hf : continuous f)
{a b : ℝ} (Hab : a < b)
(Hav : f a < 0) (Hbv : f b > 0) :
∃ c, a < c ∧ c < b ∧ f c = 0 :=
begin
let K := {x | a<b ∧ x>a ∧ x<b ∧ f x <= 0},
let c := is_lub K,
--here I would like to use the definition of least upper bound, image of c, and continuity to say that f(c) is within epsilon of 0 but I'm not sure how to use the syntax of lean
end
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:01):
is_lub
is a predicate; you probably want let c := Sup K
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:03):
BTW, no need to include a < b
in the definition of K
. You already have it in Hab
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:06):
If you use non-strict inequalities everywhere, then you'll be able to say that K
is closed, hence it contains its Sup (see cSup_mem_of_is_closed
).
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:06):
And you'll need to show that f x < 0
is impossible.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:09):
Or you can do something like (not tested)
rcases lt_trichotomy 0 (f c) with Hc | Hc | Hc,
In two cases you'll get to a contradiction, and in the middle case you'll need to show a < c
and c < b
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:10):
It makes sense to prove a ≤ c
and c ≤ b
before doing rcases
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:10):
Use cSup_le
and le_cSup
lemmas.
adriana (Apr 01 2020 at 03:28):
which import statement do I need in order to use Sup?
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:35):
What is your mathlib version? It older versions it is in lattice
namespace (was changed a few weeks ago).
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:37):
It is defined in order/complete_lattice
; lemmas that work for reals are in order/conditionally_complete_lattice
, and the latter file is import
ed by data/real/basic
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 03:37):
So, if you have real numbers, then you probably have Sup
and most of its properties.
adriana (Apr 01 2020 at 04:02):
thanks, I had the old version!
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