Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: lift from subring to field
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 02:12):
K: Type u_1
_inst_4: field K
_inst_5: discrete_valuation_field K
S: ideal ↥(val_ring K)
h: ¬S = ⊥
x: ↥(val_ring K)
a: x ∈ S
h: ¬x = 0
h_1: ↑x = 0
⊢ x = 0
val_ring K is a subring of K. As far as I understand, I am given that the lift of x to K is 0, and need to prove that x = 0. I don't know how to proceed.
Any help is appreciated, thank you!
Mario Carneiro (Jul 09 2020 at 02:14):
Does exact subtype.eq h_1
work?
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 02:15):
Yes, that works!
Jalex Stark (Jul 09 2020 at 02:21):
does assumption_mod_cast
work?
Mario Carneiro (Jul 09 2020 at 02:23):
I don't think norm_cast
knows about subtype casts
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 02:27):
Jalex Stark said:
does
assumption_mod_cast
work?
No, it gives the error
assumption_mod_cast failed:
exact tactic failed, type mismatch, given expression has type
Type u_1
but is expected to have type
x = 0
Adam Topaz (Jul 09 2020 at 02:28):
Alternatively, you can rewrite using h_1 (probably after doing a case split on x)
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 02:39):
I am now having the same problem, with \le :
K: Type u_1
_inst_4: field K
_inst_5: discrete_valuation_field K
x: ↥(val_ring K)
⊢ 0 ≤ v ↑x
The definition of val_ring K is:
def val_ring (K : Type*) [field K] [discrete_valuation_field K] := { x : K | 0 ≤ v x }
Any help is appreciated, thank you!
Adam Topaz (Jul 09 2020 at 02:40):
Try the same thing -- split x, and see what you get.
Adam Topaz (Jul 09 2020 at 02:41):
(I think exact x.2
should take care of this in one line.)
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 02:47):
Ah ok, cases x does it, as does exact x.2 . Thank you!
Johan Commelin (Jul 09 2020 at 04:19):
Adam Topaz said:
(I think
exact x.2
should take care of this in one line.)
@Ashvni Narayanan This is (strictly speaking) leaking an implementation detail. Hence it is encouraged to prove a lemma val_ring.zero_le
as one of the first things after you define val_ring
. It is part of the basic API.
Ashvni Narayanan (Jul 09 2020 at 14:12):
Ok sure. Thank you!
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