Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: maths
Topic: non-dependent type sheaves
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 01 2020 at 08:53):
I guess this is well-known but it's only just dawned on me. Rings are set up in a semi-bundled way in mathlib. So a sheaf of rings needs to involve a dependent type, because it's F : opens X -> Type
followed by [hF : Pi (U : opens X), comm_ring (F U)]
. But if rings were completely bundled then we could just have F : opens X -> CommRing
and no dependent type is needed. Does this mean I should switch to Isabelle or are there dependent types under the hood in this setting?
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 08:57):
CommRing
is a dependent type
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 08:57):
Disclaimer: I never tried Isabelle, and I don't know what it can (not) handle.
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 01 2020 at 09:13):
Yury G. Kudryashov said:
CommRing
is a dependent type
I see. I thought it might well be something like this.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Apr 01 2020 at 09:48):
Another example: we have several measurable_space
instances defined to be top
.
Nick Chopper (Apr 02 2020 at 10:08):
I create this(cat.lean) several days ago and have some initial thoughts. I think it might possible to create one completely bundled structure and then get all sorts of things (unbundled structure, like cat/cat'/cat'/... in the file, and proof of equivalence between them or something else) automatically.
Johan Commelin (Apr 02 2020 at 10:54):
@Nick Chopper Sorry, I'm a bit dense... what exactly is your proposal?
Kevin Buzzard (Apr 02 2020 at 11:35):
bundled categories
Nick Chopper (Apr 02 2020 at 12:12):
@Johan Commelin auto coe between bundled/unbundled structure (loop?), so as to use type class fill in unbundled one and then actually get a bundled one. I find it has been solved by category_theory.bundled
in the case of one-parameter class, but I wonder if it is possible to generate code like inductive type (say, unbundled structure from bundled (don't know how to avoid name confliction (instead of adding '
) yet))
Nick Chopper (Apr 02 2020 at 12:12):
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Nick Chopper (Apr 02 2020 at 12:12):
sorry for poor english
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