Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Is there code for X?
Topic: Associated (ζₚ - 1)ᵖ⁻¹ p
Andrew Yang (Sep 29 2023 at 14:13):
Do we know that (ζₚ - 1)ᵖ⁻¹
and p
are associates in ℤ[ζₚ]
?
Eric Rodriguez (Sep 29 2023 at 14:14):
It's at least in flt-regular
Eric Rodriguez (Sep 29 2023 at 14:15):
If its not there explicitly it'll be there as some multiplication
Andrew Yang (Sep 29 2023 at 14:20):
The closest I could find is docs#IsPrimitiveRoot.sub_one_norm_prime.
Eric Rodriguez (Sep 29 2023 at 14:26):
hmm, yeah I can't seem to find it. Maybe it's easy to build with flt-reg's is_primitive_root.zeta_pow_sub_eq_unit_zeta_sub_one
? (apologies for the lean3 name)
Riccardo Brasca (Sep 29 2023 at 14:39):
Maybe you can use docs#RingOfIntegers.dvd_norm to get one divisibility, and then docs#RingOfIntegers.isUnit_norm to get that the quotient is a unit.
Andrew Yang (Sep 29 2023 at 14:48):
I think docs#RingOfIntegers.dvd_norm can only give you ζ - 1 ∣ p
?
Riccardo Brasca (Sep 29 2023 at 14:50):
Ops, yes. Too much teaching today
Kevin Buzzard (Sep 29 2023 at 15:50):
One approach would be to first prove that is an associate of for .
Kevin Buzzard (Sep 29 2023 at 15:54):
(the proof is that divides because you can write down the quotient explicitly, but for any congruent to mod , and so you can choose a multiple of and do the trick the other way around).
And then is evaluated at which is modulo a possible sign error.
Eric Rodriguez (Sep 29 2023 at 23:18):
Kevin Buzzard said:
(the proof is that divides because you can write down the quotient explicitly, but for any congruent to mod , and so you can choose a multiple of and do the trick the other way around).
And then is evaluated at which is modulo a possible sign error.
is_primitive_root.zeta_pow_sub_eq_unit_zeta_sub_one is this but more general. we should PR it
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