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Stream: Is there code for X?

Topic: Cantor set, Cantor function?


Michael Rothgang (Sep 15 2023 at 08:07):

Is there a definition of the (standard) Cantor set CC and the (Vitali-Lebesgue-)Cantor staircase function f:[0,1][0,1]f:[0,1]\to [0,1] --- or, aiming for the moon on a stick, even the following properties?

  • CC is uncountable, nowhere dense and has measure zero
  • ff is continuous
  • f([0,1]C)f([0,1]\setminus C) is countable, so f(C)f(C) has measure 11
  • (I don't need this, but it's still cool: f(t)=0f'(t)=0 a.e., so f(1)01f(t)dtf(1)\neq \int_0^1 f'(t)dt and ff is not absolutely continuous)
  • huge bonus points for fat Cantor sets -- showing that nowhere dense doesn't imply Lebesgue measure zero

Then I could also state a counterexample to a lemma I'm currently formalizing. :-)

Kevin Buzzard (Sep 15 2023 at 13:25):

I don't know the answer to your actual question but I would recommend that you stop formalising the lemma.

Kevin Buzzard (Sep 15 2023 at 13:26):

As to your question, certainly most if not all of it would be accessible (and perhaps even easy and fun) given what we already have.

Michael Rothgang (Sep 15 2023 at 21:45):

Kevin Buzzard said:

I don't know the answer to your actual question but I would recommend that you stop formalising the lemma.

I've been imprecise: I wasn't trying to formulate a false statement - rather, it's an example why a particular hypothesis (some function being C¹) cannot be weakened.


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