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Stream: Is there code for X?

Topic: Composition Series for Groups wrt Normal subgroup


Johannes Choo (Mar 05 2025 at 09:40):

I found the analogous theory for modules, https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/Mathlib/RingTheory/SimpleModule/Basic.html .

It is an instance of an abstraction in https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/Mathlib/Order/JordanHolder.html

so I'd like to contribute a parallel development for groups in this file if it's indeed missing https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/Mathlib/GroupTheory/Subgroup/Simple.html

Note: previous discussion that I could find #maths > Jordan Hölder theorem

Johan Commelin (Mar 05 2025 at 11:52):

@Thomas Browning probably knows best...

Johannes Choo (Mar 05 2025 at 13:11):

TODO

Provide instances of [JordanHolderLattice](https://leanprover-community.github.io/mathlib4_docs/Mathlib/Order/JordanHolder.html#JordanHolderLattice) for subgroups, and potentially for modular lattices.

I improved my reading comprehension and am a bit more convinced it doesn't exist yet XD

Thomas Browning (Mar 05 2025 at 17:55):

@Chris Hughes was the one working on this, but I suspect that you're right and we don't have Jordan-Holder for subgroups yet.

Chris Hughes (Mar 05 2025 at 18:00):

My memory of this is that the proof of Jordan-Holder currently in the library should apply to groups as long as you can prove they form a JordanHolderLattice, but I have a feeling that there is a little bit of content to this and it won't be as easy as for modules.


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