Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Is there code for X?
Topic: How to prove a multiple integral is Integrable?
Junqi Liu (Jul 13 2024 at 04:10):
like
example : IntervalIntegrable
(fun x ↦ ∫ (y : ℝ) (z : ℝ) in (0)..1, 1 / (1 - x * y * z)) MeasureTheory.volume 0 1 := by sorry
where can't be separated from the multiple integral.
note: we assume this multiple integral must be integrable, maybe it is not .
Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2024 at 00:56):
Do you have an informal proof?
Eric Wieser (Jul 15 2024 at 01:04):
This statement looks risky to me; if the inner integral is not integrable, then mathlib defines it as zero and so the outer one ends up integrable anyway!
Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2024 at 01:23):
The inner integral is well defined for all , because the function is continuous on in this case.
Eric Wieser (Jul 15 2024 at 01:27):
Right, in this case it's (presumably) true, but the statement is much weaker than the one that was intended.
Junqi Liu (Jul 15 2024 at 03:13):
:sob: My informal proof is that the triple integral is finite. But I don't know how to formal this proof.
Junqi Liu (Jul 15 2024 at 03:18):
Eric Wieser said:
This statement looks risky to me; if the inner integral is not integrable, then mathlib defines it as zero and so the outer one ends up integrable anyway!
yes! Actually I want to proof this MultiIntegral is positive. But if I want to use the lemma intervalIntegral.intervalIntegral_pos_of_pos_on
. Then I need to show the Integral and MultiIntegral is Integrable.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2024 at 03:23):
Can you just compute the integral?
Junqi Liu (Jul 15 2024 at 03:43):
emmmmm. I can only compute a upper bound in informal space.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 15 2024 at 04:22):
You can use docs#IntervalIntegrable.mono_fun'
Junqi Liu (Jul 15 2024 at 05:41):
ok! thanks~ let me have a try
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