Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: Is there code for X?

Topic: Quotient of module by sum of ideals


Brendan Seamas Murphy (Apr 27 2024 at 01:12):

Is the isomorphism M(I+J)MM/IMJ(M/IM)\frac{M}{(I + J)M} \cong \frac{M/IM}{J(M/IM)} in mathlib?

Adam Topaz (Apr 27 2024 at 02:10):

possibly, but it probably depends on how you want to formulate it.

Dean Young (Apr 27 2024 at 02:11):

R/(I+J) ≅ R/I ⊗R/J, then tensor with M.

Adam Topaz (Apr 27 2024 at 02:14):

Well sort of. The spelling I have in mind is “base change along A/I then along the quotient induced by J is the same as base change along A/(I+J)

Adam Topaz (Apr 27 2024 at 02:14):

Yeah essentially that. With the rings!

Adam Topaz (Apr 27 2024 at 02:15):

(Sorry, I’m typing on the phone so a bit slow)

Adam Topaz (Apr 27 2024 at 02:16):

But in this case there’s a canonical map in both directions, so it might be worth while to have the more explicit iso as well to have good definitional properties if needed.

Brendan Seamas Murphy (Apr 27 2024 at 02:59):

I do know how to prove the statement, and have done so in my code (using the isomorphism theorems, not tensor products), I was just wondering whether this exact iso was defined yet

Dean Young (Apr 27 2024 at 03:05):

@Brendan Seamas Murphy my bad Brandan. Jiazhen & Coriver are still eager to meet you by the way

Antoine Chambert-Loir (Apr 28 2024 at 07:15):

It is probably easier to observe that the composition map MM/I(M/I)/J(M/I)M \to M/I \to (M/I)/J\cdot(M/I) is surjective and its kernel is (I+J)M(I+J)\cdot M.


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