Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: Is there code for X?

Topic: Sequential version of Banach-Alaoglu


Etienne Marion (Jul 29 2024 at 11:25):

Hi! I see that Banach-Alaoglu theorem (docs#WeakDual.isCompact_closedBall) is in Mathlib. It states that the closed balls of the continuous dual space of normed space X are compact for the weak-star topology. Do we have the sequential version of this? That is, if the space X is separable, then the closed balls are sequentially compact (in fact the weak-star topology on the closed balls in metrizable in this case).

Yaël Dillies (Jul 29 2024 at 11:26):

@Janette Setälä just finished proving the sequential Banach-Alaoglu!

Etienne Marion (Jul 29 2024 at 11:27):

Oh nice! Is it in a PR yet?

Yaël Dillies (Jul 29 2024 at 11:29):

No, but the plan is to get it PRed this week

Etienne Marion (Jul 29 2024 at 11:30):

It's all right I don't need straight away, but that's cool! Thanks for your answer.

Jireh Loreaux (Jul 29 2024 at 12:24):

I thought we already had metrizability of the closed unit ball in the dual (in the weak⋆ topology) of a separable space. Am I wrong about that?

Jireh Loreaux (Jul 29 2024 at 12:41):

Hmmm.... seems not.

Kalle Kytölä (Jul 29 2024 at 12:55):

Indeed, Janette's proof goes via metrizability (as is natural). I don't think we had it before.

Jireh Loreaux (Jul 29 2024 at 13:21):

I'm curious about the API here (or rather, what @Janette Setälä is adding to it). It seems we're missing some. For instance, we should have something that says one docs#SeminormFamily is smaller than another (not just in terms of the actual elements). And then something like: if we have docs#WithSeminorms for some SeminormFamily, and this is smaller than another one (with respect to which all the seminorms are continuous), then we also have have docs#WithSeminorms for the larger one (or something to this effect).

Janette Setälä (Jul 29 2024 at 16:00):

Currently, both the Banach Alaoglu and the sequential version only work for a single norm.


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