Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Is there code for X?
Topic: coe to monoid_algebra
Antoine Labelle (Nov 13 2021 at 00:25):
Hi,
I'm working with monoid_algebra
and I realised that there is no coercion from G
or k
to monoid_algebra k G
. Such coercions seems like a pretty natural useful thing to have if we want to define explicit elements of the monoid_algebra
. Is there a reason they are not there or should I try adding them?
Adam Topaz (Nov 13 2021 at 00:29):
A monoid algebra should certainly have an algebra instance, so you should be able to use smul
with elements of k
. Maybe we should have notation for the canonical map from G? The usual math notation is [g]
. Perhaps we can mimic that somehow
Antoine Labelle (Nov 13 2021 at 00:33):
Indeed I mainly want the coercion from G
Adam Topaz (Nov 13 2021 at 00:48):
@Eric Wieser would probably be able to tell us if this is a good idea
Eric Wieser (Nov 13 2021 at 00:50):
Having both is a bad idea because then things go wrong become ambiguous when k = G
, and notation shouldn't be ambiguous
Eric Wieser (Nov 13 2021 at 00:51):
I assume you're aware of docs#monoid_algebra.of and just don't like writing of k G g
?
Adam Topaz (Nov 13 2021 at 01:00):
Even worse, if G just so happens to have an action by k, you will need to use type ascription which will be more verbose than of
. I think introducing some notation approximating [g]
for of k G g
, perhaps in a locale, is the right solution
Eric Wieser (Nov 13 2021 at 01:27):
We could drop the G
since it's implied by g
to make it slightly shorter
Antoine Labelle (Nov 13 2021 at 16:34):
Yeah, I just realized the existence of of
after asking the question. That does what I want indeed even though it's a little bit more lengthy than just a coercion, but it's not a big deal. Adam's solution seems interesting though.
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