Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Is there code for X?
Topic: continuous implies integrable
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 01:41):
Where are we at in terms of lemmas linking continuity to integrability? I found docs#continuous.integrable_on_compact , but couldn't find variants such as,
lemma continuous.interval_integrable {u : ℝ → ℝ} (hu : continuous u) (a b : ℝ) :
interval_integrable u measure_theory.measure_space.volume a b :=
begin
split;
{ refine measure_theory.integrable_on.mono_set _ Ioc_subset_Icc_self,
apply hu.integrable_on_compact compact_Icc,
exact real.locally_finite_volume },
end
Also, I tried writing a continuous_on
variant, but did not find continuous_on.measurable
(although we do have docs#continuous.measurable).
Are these things indeed missing? Let me know if I overlooked something or if there's a better way. @Yury G. Kudryashov
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 01:57):
There can't be continuous_on.measurable
because a function can be very bad outside of s
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 01:58):
So, continuous_on.integrable_on
should assume measurable
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 01:58):
And we have continuous_on.integrable_on_compact
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 01:59):
Unfortunately, integrals are defined so that f
has to be measurable everywhere.
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 01:59):
Ah, I see, there is no relative version of measurable
.
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 02:00):
What about continuous.interval_integrable
, the lemma I wrote?
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 02:01):
Should be easy to prove using continuous_on.integrable_on_compact
.
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 02:02):
Indeed I proved it above ... just wanted to know if I should PR it :)
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 02:02):
Currently ∫ x in s, f x ∂μ
is defined as ∫ x, f x ∂(μ.restrict s)
, not ∫ x, set.indicator s f ∂μ
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 02:03):
Possibly, this was a bad design choice (I changed it from indicator
some time ago).
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 02:05):
I don't follow, could you please explain? Are you saying the statement I wrote above
interval_integrable u measure_theory.measure_space.volume a b
is not what it should be?
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 02:09):
Oh, never mind, I guess you are explaining why there is no natural relative version of measurable
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 02:13):
You can do interval_integrable u μ a b
provided that [locally_finite_measure μ]
.
Yury G. Kudryashov (Dec 09 2020 at 02:20):
Then it'll work for, e.g., probability measures on \R
.
Heather Macbeth (Dec 09 2020 at 02:42):
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