Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: Machine Learning for Theorem Proving
Topic: Theorem proving olympiad
(deleted) (Sep 19 2025 at 08:42):
Looks like we keep celebrating AI progress in theorem proving. But a crucial question is whether AI can be as fast as humans. I have a feeling that if a person memorizes mathlib lemma names and is fluent enough in Lean, they can surpass AI in speed and success rate. This should be put to a test.
(deleted) (Sep 19 2025 at 08:43):
I feel trips to Loogle and mathlib docs are the bottleneck in many cases.
Yan Yablonovskiy 🇺🇦 (Sep 19 2025 at 08:43):
Is efficiency of the proof scored at all? If so , then I definitely agree.
(deleted) (Sep 19 2025 at 08:44):
The proof must compile in less than 1 minute. Aside from that, the compilation time is not part of the scoring criteria.
(deleted) (Sep 19 2025 at 08:45):
However, the time needed to come up with the proof is the main scoring criterion.
(deleted) (Sep 19 2025 at 10:25):
I figured that the processing speed of Lean also affects how fast a human can be
Bas Spitters (Sep 19 2025 at 12:41):
Caterine Lelay did something similar in Rocq in 2014:
https://jfla.inria.fr/2014/lelay.pdf
"Le bac" is the common, shortened name for "le baccalauréat", which is the national examination that French students take at the end of their secondary education (high school). It is a major rite of passage and is required for students to continue their studies at a university.
Jason Rute (Sep 19 2025 at 12:43):
There used to be competitions in ITP, right?
Jason Rute (Sep 19 2025 at 12:50):
This: https://www21.in.tum.de/%7Ewimmers/proofground/
Jason Rute (Sep 19 2025 at 12:51):
Using this contest system: https://do.proof.in.tum.de
Last updated: Dec 20 2025 at 21:32 UTC