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Topic: PR !4#9111: feat(LinearAlgebra/CliffordAlgebra): port Spi...


Random Issue Bot (Mar 07 2024 at 14:07):

Today I chose PR 9111 for discussion!

feat(LinearAlgebra/CliffordAlgebra): port SpinGroup
Created by @Utensil (@utensil) on 2023-12-16
Labels: awaiting-review

Is this PR still relevant? Any recent updates? Anyone making progress?

Utensil Song (Mar 12 2024 at 03:43):

The PR review was previously discussed in a thread named "#16040 Spin Group" borrowing the old thread from the mathlib3 PR, and its review and progress paused quite a while since the new year, and it's back alive thanks to @Eric Wieser 's review comments and some commits, and now I'm back at it too.

I wonder the difference between triage and PR reviews, should the long discussion go back to the old thread and this is literally just triage?

Johan Commelin (Mar 12 2024 at 03:52):

Yes, that's right

Johan Commelin (Mar 12 2024 at 03:53):

This stream is just so that a bot reminds us that we shouldn't forget a certain pr

Eric Wieser (Apr 20 2024 at 22:32):

Scott Carnahan said:

It's been more than a month since the last bot post. Who should we call?

I think this is probably between you and me; I think this is probably almost ready to go, but:

  • I wanted to leave some notes about using subgroups vs sub monoids (initially I proposed changing this but I think it's not so clear a win as I'd hoped, and want to write down why)
  • I think we should make sure to capture some of the confusion that you outlined in your answer to my mathoverflow question a year or so ago; even if we just refer to it and explain which choice we picked.

Eric Wieser (Apr 20 2024 at 22:34):

Oh, you mean since any bot post in this stream

Utensil Song (Apr 25 2024 at 04:31):

Sorry that I missed this message. I DMed you about my thoughts on subgroups vs sub monoids, now I'm looking forward to your notes about why.

My takeaway on https://mathoverflow.net/a/457323/489031 is that sources mentioned other than the Wikipedia definition are assuming more than explicitly spelled out, thus invalid.

Scott Carnahan (Apr 25 2024 at 16:31):

The section about spin and pin groups in the Wikipedia article on Clifford algebras was primarily written by Richard Borcherds, who seems to have spent a lot of time trying to get spinors to work right.

Random Issue Bot (Jul 02 2024 at 14:09):

Today I chose PR 9111 for discussion!

feat(LinearAlgebra/CliffordAlgebra): port SpinGroup
Created by @Utensil (@utensil) on 2023-12-16
Labels: awaiting-author, new-contributor

Is this PR still relevant? Any recent updates? Anyone making progress?

Utensil Song (Jul 02 2024 at 14:17):

I think the PR is ready to merge if the submonoid approach is acceptable.

I was thinking about working out the subgroup approach in Lean for comparison, but yet to find time to do that.

In the meanwhile, I have some note drafts about the definitions of Spin groups ( Web , PDF ).


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