Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: condensed mathematics

Topic: Section 5


Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 03 2022 at 18:47):

I can't understand the definition of the Smith space WW in section 5 of analytic.pdf (in the "translation" of the extension of Corollary 5.4 to the condensed setting). I ended up figuring that there might be a typo, and actually W=W1W=W_1, although I still

  • Can't figure out why there is no well-defined map WRW\rightarrow\mathbb{R} giving by summing all xix_i (if W=W1=ccKW=W_1=\bigcup_c c\cdot K where KK are the sequences in [1,1][-1,1] absolutely summing to 1\le 1, it seems well-defined to me);

Then I wondered whether the issue might be that this well-defined map is non-continuous, and fell in the rabbit-hole of asking myself

  • If 1\ell^1 is a subspace of WW (or of W1W_1 if they differ), and we want to pull-back via the inclusion 1W\ell^1\hookrightarrow W, in which category are we pulling-back? If in "locally convex v.s.", then is this inclusion continue?

Has anyone thought about this?

Johan Commelin (Apr 04 2022 at 06:10):

@Filippo A. E. Nuccio Is this related to the Lean stuff you are working on, or just general curiousity?

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 04 2022 at 07:14):

No, it is related to general curiosity, trying to understand how things work.

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 04 2022 at 07:14):

But I will leave it for another time and go back to my laurent series!

Johan Commelin (Apr 04 2022 at 07:16):

We can still try to understand what is going on. I just wanted to understand the context. Because if this came up in relation to the Lean stuff, then I was surprised... I didn't expect a connection there.

Johan Commelin (Apr 04 2022 at 07:16):

I need to do some admin before I can look at this, though

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 04 2022 at 07:17):

Yes, I understood where your question came from. But don't worry, it is not very urgent.

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 04 2022 at 07:17):

I will probably do Lean and forget about this for today, at any rate.

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 04 2022 at 07:18):

(but of course, if you will have an idea, I will be more than happy :smile: )

Peter Scholze (Apr 05 2022 at 11:43):

@Filippo A. E. Nuccio Yes, W=W1W=W_1, that is a typo. Everything in sight is supposed to be considered as condensed R\mathbb R-vector spaces, in particular the pullback. And the problem is that the map WRW\to \mathbb R summing all xix_i is not continuous. Namely, any open subset of W1W_{\leq 1} contains the basis vector (0,,0,1,0,)(0,\ldots,0,1,0,\ldots) (with 11 in place ii) for sufficiently large ii.

Filippo A. E. Nuccio (Apr 05 2022 at 11:48):

Oh, thanks, I see. So, in particular, the inclusion 1W=W1\ell^1\hookrightarrow W=W_1 is continuous? Because otherwise I don't see how it would give rise to a morphism of condensed R\mathbb{R}-v.s. along which I can pull-back.


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