Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: condensed mathematics
Topic: axioms
Johan Commelin (Jul 14 2022 at 19:58):
We have
theorem liquid_tensor_experiment (S : Profinite.{0}) (V : pBanach.{0} p) :
∀ i > 0, Ext i (ℳ_{p'} S) V ≅ 0 :=
and
#print axioms liquid_tensor_experiment
-- propext
-- quot.sound
-- classical.choice
Johan Commelin (Jul 14 2022 at 19:59):
Confirms that we didn't add new axioms, and that there really is no sorry
left.
Peter Scholze (Jul 14 2022 at 19:59):
So what are those funky axioms propext and quot.sound? (classical.choice I can guess)
Patrick Massot (Jul 14 2022 at 20:00):
docs#propext and docs#quot.sound are links to these axioms.
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 14 2022 at 20:00):
Propositional extensionality (Fermat's Last Theorem equals 2+2=4) (because they're both true)
Patrick Massot (Jul 14 2022 at 20:00):
These are completely irrelevant to mathematics.
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 14 2022 at 20:00):
and quotients satisfy the universal property of quotients.
Patrick Massot (Jul 14 2022 at 20:01):
They are only relevant for people interested only in constructive mathematics.
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 14 2022 at 20:01):
Propositional extensionality is used to prove the law of the excluded middle I think?
Anatole Dedecker (Jul 14 2022 at 20:02):
Doesn’t it use choice ?
Anatole Dedecker (Jul 14 2022 at 20:02):
Oh but maybe propext too
Patrick Massot (Jul 14 2022 at 20:03):
In Lean the proof of excluded middle uses all those three axioms
Patrick Massot (Jul 14 2022 at 20:03):
I mean the same three axioms as LTE.
Peter Scholze (Jul 14 2022 at 20:03):
OK, so I guess it's not surprising they are used in LTE ;-)
Junyan Xu (Jul 14 2022 at 20:17):
Patrick Massot said:
In Lean the proof of excluded middle uses all those three axioms
quot.sound is actually not needed for docs#classical.em, but no one has PR'd this (into core Lean) yet.
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