Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: lean4
Topic: Automating generation of category from structure type
James Randolf (Jul 22 2023 at 06:19):
I was wondering if there's any way I might be able to automate generating a category from a type definition. For example, I can define what a graph is:
structure Graph where
Vertex : Type
Edge : Type
source : Edge → Vertex
target : Edge → Vertex
and then define what a graph homomorphism is:
structure GraphHomomorphism (G H : Graph) where
mapVertex : G.Vertex → H.Vertex
mapEdge : G.Edge → H.Edge
mapSource : H.source ∘ mapEdge = mapVertex ∘ G.source
mapTarget : H.target ∘ mapEdge = mapVertex ∘ G.target
and then define composition of homomorphisms, prove it's associative, and prove each graph has an identity homomorphism.
But this whole process could be automated by code to generate a category out of any structure
type: the homomorphism type would get a mapX
field for each field x
in the original structure, whose type is the homomorphism type for the field type (with Type
-homomorphisms being functions, and X -> Y
-homomorphisms being commutative squares).
Ideally I could then just do def graphCategory : Category := generateCategory Graph
and it would auto-generate everything.
Has something like this been done before?
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 22 2023 at 06:45):
I think that the nearest we have to this is docs#CategoryTheory.Bundled .
One issue with pushing this further is that you can't guess the morphisms in general. For example let's say I gave you the definition of a topological space or a scheme. It's not at all obvious what the definition of a morphism should be just from a definition of the objects.
Trebor Huang (Jul 22 2023 at 12:26):
Also when there are contravariant or mixed stuff there's no clear way forward
Yury G. Kudryashov (Jul 22 2023 at 13:24):
Kevin Buzzard said:
I think that the nearest we have to this is docs#CategoryTheory.Bundled .
One issue with pushing this further is that you can't guess the morphisms in general. For example let's say I gave you the definition of a topological space or a scheme. It's not at all obvious what the definition of a morphism should be just from a definition of the objects.
While it is possible to guess that morphisms of topological spaces are continuous functions by looking at the type of the only data field IsOpen
(though I'm not sure that one can guess the right implication), if you look at metric spaces, the task becomes impossible because one can define several meaningful types of morphisms: continuous maps, Lipschitz continuous maps, maps that are Lipschitz continuous with constant 1, isometric maps, dilations, probably more.
Apurva Nakade (Jul 22 2023 at 14:02):
A middle ground would be to define the morphisms and have a tactic check composition, associativity, and identity properties (when trivial).
Kevin Buzzard (Jul 22 2023 at 14:26):
We already have aesop
for that :-)
Adam Topaz (Jul 22 2023 at 15:00):
For algebraic-like categories, meaning structures where the data fields are operations on some type, this is certainly possible to automate
Adam Topaz (Jul 22 2023 at 15:02):
Ideally such automation would become part of a hierarchy builder in the spirit of https://github.com/math-comp/hierarchy-builder
Scott Morrison (Jul 22 2023 at 23:17):
I think the payoff does not come from automating the construction of the category itself, but all the stuff that comes later "for free" for algebraic categories: limits, filtered colimits preserved by forget
, internal objects, etc.
Scott Morrison (Jul 22 2023 at 23:17):
That would be a cool project!
Tanner Swett (Jul 24 2023 at 20:44):
As it happens, I've started working on some stuff that will automatically generate a category from a type definition. See: https://github.com/tswett/leanstuff/blob/main/Menagerie/Meta/VarietyInfo/Extract.lean and https://github.com/tswett/leanstuff/blob/main/Menagerie/Meta/VarietyInfo/Synthesize.lean
I've only just barely started; I have a thing that will look at a structure and see what the types in it are, but that's about it. Maybe in a few weeks I'll have something that can automatically generate a category in at least one circumstance.
It's true that in general, you can't guess which way the functions are supposed to do. Initially, I'm just going to assume that all sorts are covariant, and so it won't be possible to define a topological space. Eventually, I'll probably add a mechanism for specifying whether a sort is covariant (a morphism A -> B contains a function A.whatever -> B.whatever), contravariant (a morphism A -> B contains a function B.whatever -> A.whatever), or invariant (a morphism A -> B contains a bijection A.whatever <-> B.whatever).
Last updated: Dec 20 2023 at 11:08 UTC