Zulip Chat Archive
Stream: lean4
Topic: ring
Daniel Selsam (Feb 05 2021 at 02:57):
@Mario Carneiro have you tried a reflection-based ring tactic but using dsimp
for the computation?
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 02:58):
yes, that's ring2
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 02:58):
well it doesn't use dsimp
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 02:58):
I'm not sure how that would be better
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 02:59):
simp
has a lot of performance problems when it is (ab)used as an evaluator
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 02:59):
I haven't done anything re: ring
in lean 4 though
Daniel Selsam (Feb 05 2021 at 03:00):
I remember during Certigrad, we got a gagillion-X speedup by making dsimp
produce a detailed rfl
proof.
Daniel Selsam (Feb 05 2021 at 03:00):
Do you have any idea how much slower ring2
is than ring
in lean3?
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 03:01):
It was modest, something like 1.5x
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 03:02):
but you have to bend over backwards to write kernel computations that compute well (see the other thread)
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 03:02):
I found it to be more robust to just generate proof terms
Mario Carneiro (Feb 05 2021 at 03:04):
Also the reflection approach is less flexible wrt "optional features" like negation in your (semi)ring expression
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